Imaginary Can We Find the Least Time?

In summary, the problem involves a cyclist trying to find the minimum time it takes to travel a distance of 240m with deceleration to come to a stop at point B. The relevant equations are s=ut+1/2at^2 and v=u+at. The conversation discusses different possible solutions and ultimately concludes that the total time taken is at least 22 seconds, with a break applied for 4 seconds and a distance traveled of 24m.
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chwala
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Homework Statement
See attached.
Relevant Equations
##s##=##ut##+##\frac {1}{2}####at^2##
This is the problem;

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I tried using;
##s##=##ut##+##\frac {1}{2}####at^2##
and ended up with, ##240## =## 12t -1.5t^2## clearly we have an imaginary solution here and therefore this may not be correct?
My wild guess is that the least time (Without deceleration) should take at least, ##t##=##\frac {240}{12}####=20##seconds
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached.
Relevant Equations:: ##s##=##ut##+##\frac {1}{2}##at^2##

This is the problem;

View attachment 294254I tried using;
##s##=##ut##+##\frac {1}{2}####at^2##
and ended up with, ##240## =## 12t -1.5t^2## clearly we have an imaginary solution here and therefore this may not be correct?
My wild guess is that the least time (Without deceleration) should take at least, ##t##=##\frac {240}{12}####=20##seconds
Okay, if he doesn't brake, then he takes ##20s## to travel ##240m## at ##12m/s##.

But, he needs to brake and come to a stop at ##B##.
 
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PeroK said:
Okay, if he doesn't brake, then he takes ##20s## to travel ##240m## at ##12m/s##.

But, he needs to brake and come to a stop at ##B##.
True, I can't seem to find the solution. I have the textbook solution with me...I need input...I have taken a break just to refresh and think about this question...
 
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chwala said:
True, I can't seem to find the solution. I have the textbook solution with me...I need input...I have taken a break just to refresh and think about this question...
If you were the cyclist, what would you do?
 
  • #5
PeroK said:
If you were the cyclist, what would you do?
Of course decelerate...at which we have ##v=0## at point ##B##. We can't use ##v = u +at##, here as ##t=4##, is misleading.
 
  • #6
chwala said:
Of course decelerate...at which we have ##v=0## at point ##B##. We can't use ##v = u +at##, here as ##t=4##, is misleading.
When would you hit the brakes is the question?
 
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PS do you know about the concept of "stopping distance", as it relates to road vehicles?
 
  • #8
PeroK said:
When would you hit the brakes is the question?
I need to think about this...:biggrin:
 
  • #9
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh i got it! Let me post my working.
 
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Now when the brakes are applied ( retardation)...leading to point ##B##, this takes a total time of ##t=4## as earlier indicated in post ##6##. Now distance traveled in the last ##4## seconds is,
##s##=##ut##+##\frac {1}{2}####at^2##
##48-24= 24 ## metres
Therefore the first portion of the journey takes ##t##= ##\frac {216}{12}=18##seconds.

Therefore the cyclist will travel atleast ##18+4=22## seconds. Phew!:cool:
 
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