Determine 3 Elements of Group H with Primes p & q

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In summary, the conversation discusses a group H that is a proper subset of integers and contains exactly three elements from the set {p, p+q, pq, p^q, q^p}. The task is to determine which of the options {pq, p^q, q^p}, {p+q, pq, p^q}, {p, p+q, pq}, {p, p^q, q^p}, and {p, pq, p^q} are the three elements in H. Using Euclid's algorithm, it is determined that if H contains p^q and q^p, then it also contains 1 and is equivalent to the group pZ. Therefore, the correct
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let p and q be distinct primes. suppose that H is a proper subset of integers and H is a group under addition that contains exactly 3 elements of the set
{ p,p+q,pq, p^q , q^p}.
Determine which of the foll are the 3 elements in H
a. pq, p^q, q^p

b. P+q, pq,p^q

c. p, p+q, pq

d. p, p^q, q^p

e. p, pq, p^q
 
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Hint Euclid's algorithm: p^r and q^s are coprime so if H contains these two elements, then it contains 1, and hence is Z. Use this idea in several variations. Of course you could consider the group pZ
 
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thanks sir, but could you please elaborate further.
i don't seem to get the idea...
 
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If a group contains p, it contains np for all n in Z. So clearly e. forms the answer.

A group for instance cannot contain p and q if they are coprime and not be all of Z since there are a and b in Z such that ap+bq=1, hence the group contains all elements of Z.

And I tihnk you ought to ponder that for a while, cos I really have given you more information than I want to.
 
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How about thinking about an example if you cant' see it:

p=2 q=3

If 2 and 3 are in the group, then so is -2 (inverses) and hence, so is 3-2=1 (composition)

If 1 is in there so is 1+1+1+..+1= n (composition) and n was arbitrary, also -n is in there (inverses again)
 
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well...thanks a lot, sir! i figured it out...
 

1. What is the significance of Group H in mathematics?

Group H is a mathematical concept that falls under the study of abstract algebra. It is a type of group with specific properties that make it useful for solving various mathematical problems.

2. How are primes p and q related to Group H?

Primes p and q are used as parameters to determine the elements of Group H. These primes are used to generate a set of numbers that have specific properties, which make them suitable for forming a group.

3. How many elements are there in Group H with primes p and q?

The number of elements in Group H with primes p and q can be determined by multiplying p and q together. So, if p = 2 and q = 3, the number of elements in Group H would be 6.

4. How do you determine the elements of Group H with primes p and q?

To determine the elements of Group H with primes p and q, you can use a formula that involves modular arithmetic. The formula is (p-1)(q-1)/2, which gives the number of elements in the group.

5. Can Group H with primes p and q be used in real-life applications?

Yes, Group H with primes p and q has applications in cryptography, coding theory, and other areas of mathematics. It is used to create secure communication channels and to solve complex mathematical problems.

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