Find the vortices of a square after a transformation given by a tensor

In summary, given a square with vertices at (0, 0), (L, 0), (0, L), and (L, L) and a distension tensor, ε, the positions of the vertices after the transformation can be found by multiplying each vertex by ε. The resulting positions will depend on the specific values of ε and may involve rotation and dilation of the original square.
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Homework Statement



Given a square and the respective distension tensor, ε, find the position on his vortices after the transformation.

ε = 0.1...0.25
...0.25...0.1

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I got kind of lost in this question. I started thinking that maybe a vortic at the coordinates (a,b) would later be at the position (a',b') given by:

(a',b') = (a,b)ε

This got me some weird results tho, which led me to believe it was wrong.

I later tried to solve it using each component of the tensor alone. I know that the components of the diagonal give me the elongation, therefore I used them to find the positions of the vortices after the elongation. The problem came when I had to deal with the distortion. How can I find the position of the vortices there? I managed to find the position of the vortices that were at either the x-axis or y axis, using trigonometry

sin(εxy)=b'/L , where L is the length of the square after the elongation.

My problem now rests with finding the position of the vortix at (L,L).
Using trigonometry I found that the size of the diagonal,D, after the distortion was:
D = Lcos(π/4-εxy)
Since the vortix will still have an y coordinate equal to the x coordinate after the distortion I can say that:

2A^2=D^2 , where A will be the position of the vortix after the distortion.

I think my way of solving the problem is correct, however I can't help but think there's a better way... If someone could throw me some light I'd appreciate.
 
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Jalo said:

Homework Statement



Given a square and the respective distension tensor, ε, find the position on his vortices after the transformation.
I presume you mean "vertices". "Vortices" are completely different things!
Jalo said:
ε = 0.1...0.25
...0.25...0.1

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I got kind of lost in this question. I started thinking that maybe a vortic at the coordinates (a,b) would later be at the position (a',b') given by:

(a',b') = (a,b)ε
Is it (a, b)ε or ε(a, b)? What convention are you using?

Jalo said:
This got me some weird results tho, which led me to believe it was wrong.

I later tried to solve it using each component of the tensor alone. I know that the components of the diagonal give me the elongation, therefore I used them to find the positions of the vortices after the elongation. The problem came when I had to deal with the distortion. How can I find the position of the vortices there? I managed to find the position of the vortices that were at either the x-axis or y axis, using trigonometry

sin(εxy)=b'/L , where L is the length of the square after the elongation.

My problem now rests with finding the position of the vortix at (L,L).
Using trigonometry I found that the size of the diagonal,D, after the distortion was:
D = Lcos(π/4-εxy)
Since the vortix will still have an y coordinate equal to the x coordinate after the distortion I can say that:

2A^2=D^2 , where A will be the position of the vortix after the distortion.

I think my way of solving the problem is correct, however I can't help but think there's a better way... If someone could throw me some light I'd appreciate.
What were the vertices of your square to begin with? Is your square centered at (0, 0)? Are you taking into account rotation and dilation?

You say that one vertex is at (L, L) so are you assuming a square with vertices at (0, 0), (L, 0), (0, L), and (L, L)? If so applying [itex]\epsilon[/itex] to each vertex gives
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}0.1 & 0.25 \\ 0.25 & 0.1\end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix}0 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}0 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}[/tex]
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}0.1 & 0.25 \\ 0.25 & 0.1\end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix}L \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}.25L \\ .1L \end{bmatrix}[/tex]
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}0.1 & 0.25 \\ 0.25 & 0.1\end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix}0 \\ L \end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix} .1L\\ .25L \end{bmatrix}[/tex]
and
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}0.1 & 0.25 \\ 0.25 & 0.1\end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix}L \\ L \end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}.35L \\ .35L \end{bmatrix}[/tex]
 
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What is a vortex?

A vortex is a swirling pattern of fluid or gas that rotates around a central axis. It is often described as a "whirlpool" or "tornado-like" motion.

What is a tensor?

A tensor is a mathematical tool used to describe the relationship between different coordinate systems in multi-dimensional spaces. In the context of fluid dynamics, tensors are used to describe the deformation and rotation of a fluid.

How are vortices affected by a transformation?

A transformation, given by a tensor, can change the shape and orientation of a fluid. This can lead to changes in the strength and position of vortices.

What is a square transformation?

A square transformation is a specific type of transformation in which the original square shape of a fluid is preserved, but its position and orientation may be changed. This can be represented by a square tensor.

How do I find the vortices of a square after a transformation given by a tensor?

To find the vortices of a square after a transformation, you will need to analyze the tensor and its effect on the fluid. This can be done using mathematical equations and computer simulations. The resulting vortices will depend on the specific properties and parameters of the tensor and the fluid.

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