Finding pH of an Acid with Added OH-: Ka and the Quadratic Equation

In summary, the conversation is discussing the calculation of pH using the Ka and initial concentration of a weak acid solution. It is also discussing the addition of a base and its effect on pH. The formula Ka=[H+][A-]/[HA] is used to find the pH, but there is some confusion about the units and volume of the solution. The final conclusion is that in this case, the ion concentration of both [OH-] and [H+] is 9*10^-8, resulting in a pH of 7.
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__________HA <------> H+ + A-
initial (mol) .1 ________ 0 ___ 0
change __ -x _______ +x ___ +x
final _____.1-x _______ x ___ x

Ka = 10^-8
find pH of .1 mol acid
since ka X 100 = 10^-6 < .1 can use initial concentration: .1-x = .1

Ka = [H+][A-]/[HA]
10^-8=x^2/.1
x=[H+]= 3.16x10^-5
pH = 4.5

now add .01 mols of OH- and see how it changes the pH

Ka=x[3.16x10^-5 + .01]/(.1 - .01)
10^-8 = .01x/.09
x=9x10^-8

-log(9x10^-8) = pH of 7 (also a pOH of 7)

what is the 9x10^-8 ion concentration representing, the [OH-] or [H+] ions?

if it's the [OH-] then shouldn't it be 14-pOH = pH
14-7=7

is this formula the best way find the pH in this case?
Ka=x([H+] + [OH-])/([HA] - [OH-])
 
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  • #2
A little confused- can you give some indication as to volume/amount. I don't know if I am reading that right but you seem to have derrived pH from moles rather than mol dm-3- I'm a little tired at the moment so I don't know though.
 
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now add .01 mols of OH- and see how it changes the pH

Ka=x[3.16x10^-5 + .01]/(.1 - .01)
10^-8 = .01x/.09
x=9x10^-8

I'm not quite sure what you did here could you post the actual problem and then explain what you did above
 
  • #4
what is the 9x10^-8 ion concentration representing, the [OH-] or [H+] ions?

to answer this question the 9*10^-8 represents both the OH- and the H+ since your pH is 7 those two concentrations have to be equal
 
  • #5
Okay i got it see if you follow me

your going to take 14-4.5=pOH then take 10^-pOH=[OH-] + the [.01] your adding, that equals .01 then take the -log.01=pOH 14-pOH=pH
 

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