How Do You Calculate the Third Derivative of y = (5x - 1)^(1/2)?

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In summary, the 1st derivative of y = (5x - 1)^{\frac{1}{2}} can be found using the Chain Rule, the 2nd derivative can be found using the Multiplication Rule and the Chain Rule, and the 3rd derivative can be found using the Chain Rule and the Chain Rule.
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[tex]y = (5x - 1)^{\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

So to find the 1st derivative I use the Chain Rule:

[tex]y' = \frac{1}{2}(5x - 1)^{\frac{1}{2} - 1} \cdot (5 - 0) \\
= \frac{5}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

2nd:

Multiplication rule [f'(x)*g(x) + f(x)*g'(x)] and Chain Rule:

[tex]y'' = \frac{5}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}} \\
= 0\cdot (5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}} + \frac{5}{2}\cdot [-\frac{1}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2} - 1} \cdot (5 - 0)] \\
= \frac{5}{2}\cdot (-\frac{5}{2})(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} \\
= -\frac{25}{4}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}}[/tex]

3rd:

Multiplication rule [f'(x)*g(x) + f(x)*g'(x)] and Chain Rule:

[tex]y''' = -\frac{25}{4}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} \\
= 0\cdot (5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} + -\frac{25}{4}\cdot [(-\frac{3}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}-1}) \cdot (5 - 0)] \\
= -\frac{25}{4}\cdot (-\frac{15}{2})(5x - 1)^{-\frac{5}{2}} \\
= \frac{375}{8}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{5}{2}} \\
= \frac{375}{8(5x-1)^{\frac{5}{2}}}[/tex]

I think I got this one wrong but this is how I worked it out...have I done any step incorrectly here?
 
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Oh wow, I typed in "third derivative of" and then the given equation and it found the exact answer I got lol

If only my HP-15c could do this too

Do you know if graphing calculators are capable of this?
 
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Certain ones are, for example the TI-89 but it's better to do these calculations without this kind of help. With great power comes great responsibility! ;)

Many calculators can calculate the derivative at a certain point, so you could type in something like Deriv(x^2, x, 2) meaning calculate the derivative of x^2 with respect to x at the point x=2 and it would output 4. Far less calculators can output the general derivative.
 
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daigo said:
So to find the 1st derivative I use the Chain Rule:

[tex]y' = \frac{1}{2}(5x - 1)^{\frac{1}{2} - 1} \cdot (5 - 0) \\
= \frac{5}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

2nd:

Multiplication rule [f'(x)*g(x) + f(x)*g'(x)] and Chain Rule:

[tex]y'' = \frac{5}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}} \\
= 0\cdot (5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2}} + \frac{5}{2}\cdot [-\frac{1}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{1}{2} - 1} \cdot (5 - 0)] \\
= \frac{5}{2}\cdot (-\frac{5}{2})(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} \\
= -\frac{25}{4}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}}[/tex]

3rd:

Multiplication rule [f'(x)*g(x) + f(x)*g'(x)] and Chain Rule:

[tex]y''' = -\frac{25}{4}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} \\
= 0\cdot (5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}} + -\frac{25}{4}\cdot [(-\frac{3}{2}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{3}{2}-1}) \cdot (5 - 0)] \\
= -\frac{25}{4}\cdot (-\frac{15}{2})(5x - 1)^{-\frac{5}{2}} \\
= \frac{375}{8}(5x - 1)^{-\frac{5}{2}} \\
= \frac{375}{8(5x-1)^{\frac{5}{2}}}[/tex]

I think I got this one wrong but this is how I worked it out...have I done any step incorrectly here?

You can elliminate a lot of the algebra when doing this by observing that:
\[y'=\frac{5}{2}\;y^{-1}\]
so:
\[y''=-\;\frac{5}{2}y'\;y^{-2}=-\frac{25}{4}\;y^{-3}\]
Then differentiating again gives:
\[y'''=\frac{25\times 3 \times 5}{8}y^{-5}\]

CB
 
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1. What is a third derivative?

A third derivative is the rate of change of a function's second derivative. It represents the acceleration of the rate of change of the original function.

2. Why is finding the third derivative important?

Finding the third derivative can provide valuable information about the behavior of a function, such as the concavity and inflection points. It can also be used in physics to analyze the motion of an object.

3. How do you find the third derivative?

To find the third derivative, you first take the derivative of the original function to get the second derivative. Then, you take the derivative of the second derivative to get the third derivative. This can be repeated to find higher derivatives.

4. What is the notation for the third derivative?

The notation for the third derivative is f'''(x) or d3f/dx3. This can also be written as y''' or d3y/dx3 for functions of x and y.

5. Can the third derivative be negative?

Yes, the third derivative can be negative. This indicates that the rate of change of the second derivative is decreasing, which can result in a concave down shape for the original function.

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