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Finding volume content

  1. Oct 9, 2011 #1
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    I have absolutely no idea on how to solve this problem. Usually problems indicate some quantity which we can substitute into an equation.
    Any tips will be greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. Oct 9, 2011 #2

    cepheid

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    You know that the amount of oleic acid in the final mixture is 1 part in 400. So all you have to do is figure out the volume of a single droplet, and the volume of oleic acid in that droplet will be 1/400 of that droplet volume.

    So, what is the volume of a droplet? Well, 97 droplets have a volume of 1 cm3, so 1 droplet has a volume of ____?
     
  4. Oct 9, 2011 #3
    Hi, thanks for your reply.
    Hm will it be 1/97 cm[itex]^{3}[/itex] , if so then would I multiply this fraction by 400 ?
     
  5. Oct 9, 2011 #4

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    That's right.
     
  6. Oct 9, 2011 #5
    Thank you very much! The wording of the question brought about confusion to my mind.This question has another parts as well, which I'll try to solve.
     
  7. Oct 9, 2011 #6

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    Are you sure multiplication by 400 equals the correct volume of oleic acid?
     
  8. Oct 9, 2011 #7
    Volume of oleic acid in one droplet ?
    why is it wrong ?
     
  9. Oct 9, 2011 #8

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    Because the oleic acid was being diluted in methanol.
     
  10. Oct 9, 2011 #9

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    Yeah, sorry, I missed that. I thought he meant multiply the denominator by 400 (i.e. multiply by 1/400 just the way I told him to).
     
  11. Oct 10, 2011 #10
    Oh I see.. I initially thought of multiplying by 1/400 , i even had that posted as an answer until I changed my mind.Some misunderstanding from both ends. Now it's clear. Thanks.
     
  12. Oct 10, 2011 #11
    So here's my final answer for this question: 1/97 x 1/400 ~ 2.6x10^-5 cm3

    The questions which follow on are:

    The surface of a tank of water is dusted with fine powder. A single drop of the
    diluted mixture is allowed to fall on the water surface. The alcohol component mixes
    with the water and the oil forms a monolayer film on the water surface, displacing
    the dust so it is clearly visible, with a diameter of 9.4 cm. What is the thickness of
    the film?

    I have answered this: All that was needed to be done was using the Volume = Area x thickness.My final answer is: 3.7x10^-7 cm.

    Next question's:
    The shape of an oleic acid molecule can be approximated by a cuboid l ´ l ´ 7l .
    One end (COOH) loves water (hydrophilic) and the other end hates it (hydrophobic).
    Assume that these molecules stick out of the water and form a monolayer close
    packed in a square arrangement. What are the dimensions of the molecule?

    What does the statement which I have highlighted in bold mean ? do I find out the unit dimension of the molecule? I know lxlx7l denotes volume of the molecule.


    Again thanks for your help.
     
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  13. Oct 10, 2011 #12
    Never mind I have found the answer for this. Thanks everyone for your help!
     
  14. Oct 10, 2011 #13
    I need a quick tip on how to solve one of the last bit of this question. The question basically wants me to derive Avogadro's number of oleic acid. So the molecular mass I have got is : 282.
    Now I know moles = Mass/ Mr.
    To get mass I will have to use density = Mass/ volume.
    But once I sub in the numbers.. I get something in the range of 5x10^24! :(

    My volume for oleic acid in one droplet was: 2.6x10^-5 (cm3 , do i divide this by 100 to get m3, or is it 1x10^-6 ? )
    Density in the question is given to be 890 kg/m3.

    Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks!
     
  15. Jan 29, 2012 #14
    How do I find out the volume of something that is 36w - 16h - 16d. Would it just be 36 * 16 * 16.
     
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