Solved: Flow over Spillway: Calculating Q with Bernoulli & Torricelli

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In summary, the water flow over a spillway when neglecting viscosity is given by the equation ##Q=\frac{2}{3}w\sqrt{2gy^3}##, where ##w## is the width of the spillway, ##g## is the acceleration due to gravity, and ##y## is the height of the water above the spillway. This is derived by using Bernoulli's equation and Torricelli's equation, and taking into account the flow over an area rather than just a point.
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Homework Statement


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When the level of water in a reservoir is too high, the water spills out over a spillway,
as illustrated in the figure below

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Neglecting viscosity, show that the water flow ##Q## over the spillway is given by
$$Q=\frac{2}{3}w\sqrt{2gy^3}$$

Homework Equations


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Bernoulli's Equation: ##P_1+\rho gh_1+\frac{1}{2}\rho v_1^2=P_2+\rho gh_2+\frac{1}{2}\rho v_2^2##
Torricelli's Equation: ##v=\sqrt{2gh}##

The Attempt at a Solution



##Q=Av=(wy)(\sqrt{2gy})=w\sqrt{2gy^3}##

I am not sure how to get ##\frac{2}{3}## in this equation as indicated by the answer. I feel that I am oversimplifying this by assuming the height in Torricelli's equation is just ##y## when it should account for flow over an area as opposed to a point. Would this mean the height is ##\frac{y}{2}## to get the average velocity of the fluid?
 
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kubaanglin said:
it should account for flow over an area as opposed to a point.
Yes. The consequence for the total flow varies as the height above the spillway increases from0 to y.
kubaanglin said:
Would this mean the height is ##\frac{y}{2}## to get the average velocity of the fluid?
No, that's still too simplistic. Consider a thin horizontal slice from x to x+dx above the spillway. What is the flow due to that?
 
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Oh, that makes sense.

##Q=Av=(wy)\int_0^y (\sqrt{2gy})=(wy\sqrt{2g})\int_0^y \sqrt{y}=(wy\sqrt{2g})(\frac{\sqrt{y^3}}{\frac{3}{2}})=\frac{2}{3}w\sqrt{2gy^3}##

Thank you!
 
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kubaanglin said:
Oh, that makes sense.

##Q=Av=(wy)\int_0^y (\sqrt{2gy})=(wy\sqrt{2g})\int_0^y \sqrt{y}=(wy\sqrt{2g})(\frac{\sqrt{y^3}}{\frac{3}{2}})=\frac{2}{3}w\sqrt{2gy^3}##

Thank you!
Good job.
 

What is the purpose of calculating Q in flow over a spillway?

The purpose of calculating Q in flow over a spillway is to determine the flow rate of water through the spillway. This is important for designing and maintaining safe and efficient spillways for controlling water levels and preventing flooding.

What is Bernoulli's principle and how is it used in this calculation?

Bernoulli's principle states that in a moving fluid, there is a trade-off between pressure and velocity. As the velocity of a fluid increases, the pressure decreases. In this calculation, Bernoulli's principle is used to relate the pressure at the top of the spillway to the velocity of the water at the bottom.

How does Torricelli's law apply to this problem?

Torricelli's law states that the velocity of a fluid exiting a small hole in a container is equal to the square root of 2 times the acceleration due to gravity times the height of the fluid above the hole. In this problem, Torricelli's law is used to calculate the velocity of the water at the bottom of the spillway based on the height of the water above the opening.

What are the assumptions made in this calculation?

The main assumptions made in this calculation are that the flow is steady (no changes in time), inviscid (no friction), and incompressible (density of the fluid remains constant).

How accurate is this calculation in real-world scenarios?

The accuracy of this calculation can vary depending on the specific conditions and assumptions made. In real-world scenarios, there may be other factors that can affect the flow over a spillway, such as turbulence or changes in water level. Therefore, it is important to consider the limitations and potential sources of error when using this calculation in practical applications.

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