Fluid Dynamics Forces: Steady, Pressure-Driven Flow Between Parallel Plates

In summary, the conversation discussed the problem of finding the velocity of a steady, pressure-driven flow between two parallel plates, one stationary and one moving. The equations used were the Navier-Stokes equations for incompressible Newtonian fluids and the continuity equation for fluid dynamics. The solution involved solving for the velocity profile, which was found to be a combination of a parabola and a straight line. The force per unit area on the upper and lower plates was also calculated using the shear stress equation. The conversation also addressed a mistake in the original derivation and clarified the physical reasoning behind the velocity profile.
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quickdry
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I would really appreciate any help with this problem. I'm pretty stuck.

Homework Statement



An incompressible viscous fluid occupies the region between two parallel plates. The lower plate is stationary and the upper plate moves with a velocity u. Find the velocity of a steady, pressure-driven flow between the plates. Sketch the velocity profice and consider separately the cases where the pressure gradient is positive or negative. Compute the force per unit area on the upper and lower plates.


Homework Equations



most likely navier stokes for incompressible Newtonian fluids found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navier-Stokes_equations

and continuity equation for fluid dynamics, found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_equation

The Attempt at a Solution



If the upper plate is taken to be moving in the x-direction, then (velocity) Vy = Vz =0.

With the continuity equation, d(rho)/dt becomes zero as the fluid is incompressible so density never changes. WHere U is fluid velocity, Continuity becomes del(dot)(rho*u) = (del(rho))(dot)u + rho(del(dot)u). (del(rho))(dot)u is zero due to incompressibility as well, so this gives dUx/dx + dUz/dz = 0.

Vz is 0 at the bottom and top plate and thus everywhere else. so Vz=0, dUz/dz=0, dUx/dx=0 by symmetry

so Ux is a function of z. Ux=Ux(z)

WIth the navier stokes equation becomes
0=-dP/dx+μ((d^2)Ux/dz^2)
integrating both sides gives
dUx/dz=1/μ *dP/dx *z + C
Ux(z) = 1/2μ * dP/dx Z^2 + C(1)z + C(2)

Applying the boundary conditions: Ux(0)=0 -> C(2)=0
Ux(h) = V0 -> C(1)=V0/h-1/2μ*dP/dx*h

After this I'm not sure about the pressure gradients part or the forcer per unit area on the plates. I'm not even completely sure I did the flow velocity (Ux(z))) part correctly. Any help would be really appreciated.

I also hope you can understand what I wrote, it's quite hard to type these formulas.

Thanks
 
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Have your read the https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8997" for this forum? It's an easy way to display mathematical formulas.

WIth the navier stokes equation becomes
0=-dP/dx+μ((d^2)Ux/dz^2)
integrating both sides gives
dUx/dz=1/μ *dP/dx *z + C
Ux(z) = 1/2μ * dP/dx Z^2 + C(1)z + C(2)

Applying the boundary conditions: Ux(0)=0 -> C(2)=0
Ux(h) = V0 -> C(1)=V0/h-1/2μ*dP/dx*h
Seems correct. Now, rearrange it to get,

[tex] U_x(z) = \frac{z(dP/dx)(z-h)}{2 \mu} + V_0z/h [/tex]

How will the plot of U_x(z) vs z, look when dP/dx is positive or negative? If you want, you can put numbers and check the plots.

After this I'm not sure about the pressure gradients part or the forcer per unit area on the plates.

Now that you've got the velocity profile, and you know that the shear stress is [tex] \mu \frac{dV}{dz}[/tex], can you calculate the forcer per unit area on the plates?
 
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Thanks a lot!

So the force per unit area on the upper plate would be
[tex]\frac{1}{2}(dP/dx)h+\frac{muU}{h}[/tex]

and on the lower plate, it would be

[tex]\frac{muU}{h}-\frac{1}{2}(dP/dx)h[/tex]
If i haven't made a mistake

However, I still have a question about the velocity profile. When plugging in arbitrary numbers, the profile changes drastically depending on the μ value in the positive dP/dx case. With a small μ, the velocity can suddenly become negative between the plates. With the negative dP/dx case, the flow increases in the Z direction as expected, but then suddenly slows when z=h at the top plate. If the top plate is causing the movement of the fluid, then the flow velocity should be greatest at the top plate (z=h). The physical reasoning velocity profile is of a 0 fluid velocity at the bottom plate (Z=0) increasing linearly to a velocity V=U at the top plate (Z=h). Neither of these cases match. The only thing I can think of is if my original velocity equation is wrong.
 
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So the force per unit area on the upper plate would be
[tex]\frac{1}{2}(dP/dx)h+\frac{muU}{h}[/tex]

and on the lower plate, it would be

[tex]\frac{muU}{h}-\frac{1}{2}(dP/dx)h[/tex]
If i haven't made a mistake

How did you get that? For example, if you want to find the stress at the lower plate, evaluate [tex]dU_x/dz[/tex] at z=0, and multiply it with [tex]\mu[/tex]. Can you take it from here?
quickdry said:
However, I still have a question about the velocity profile. When plugging in arbitrary numbers, the profile changes drastically depending on the μ value in the positive dP/dx case. With a small μ, the velocity can suddenly become negative between the plates.

Interesting, isn't it? And it's true!

Consider the equation,
[tex]v_z = \frac{z(dP/dx)(z-h)}{2 \mu} + V_0z/h [/tex]

The first term, [tex] \frac{z(dP/dx)(z-h)}{2 \mu}[/tex], is a parabola, and the second term, [tex] V_0z/h[/tex] is a straight line. When dP/dx is positive, notice that they have opposite signs. The final answer will be a superposition of these two.

If the top plate is causing the movement of the fluid, then the flow velocity should be greatest at the top plate (z=h). The physical reasoning velocity profile is of a 0 fluid velocity at the bottom plate (Z=0) increasing linearly to a velocity V=U at the top plate (Z=h).

No, that's not right.

The linear increase will take place only when the pressure gradient is 0.
 
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siddharth said:
How did you get that? For example, if you want to find the stress at the lower plate, evaluate [tex]dU_x/dz[/tex] at z=0, and multiply it with [tex]\mu[/tex]. Can you take it from here?

haha, sorry, I actually did this but I made a stupid mistake in derivation mixed with messing up how to use "Latex". I have an answer that makes more sense now.

I think I understand the velocity profile now too.

Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate it.
 

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