Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Food blasphemy

  1. Jul 21, 2007 #1

    Evo

    User Avatar

    Staff: Mentor

    Food blasphemy!!!!

    I've noticed it's become trendy to take well loved, traditional recipes and create "updated" versions of them. I've also found that the "updated" version is usually not even close to the tasty original and can actually be quite revolting, if not frightening.

    I was looking for chicken cacciatore recipes online. This I thought was a no brainer, chicken, a marinara type tomato sauce, mushrooms and olives, served over pasta.

    Instead I find "In our updated version of the classic Chicken Cacciatore, we have substituted tofu for the chicken, mango chutney for the tomato sauce, chilled and poured over a bed of mung bean sprouts". :yuck: :confused:

    It's like the "cheesy breakfast baklava" recipe I found. That's NOT baklava!!!!! (although I admit as a cheese and phyllo dough recipe it looked quite yummy).

    And the "chocolate mousse" recipe that contained peach puree and no chocolate. :bugeye:

    Come on people. There are traditional, classic recipes that should be made in a certain way with certain ingredients. Once you change that, you can no longer call it by that name.

    Like my friend's frozen "meatless chicken and vegetables" dinner. I think "meatless" might mean there isn't really any chicken in it. Is it legal to call it chicken?

    It's like non-alcoholic wine. Uhm, maybe that would be GRAPE JUICE??? Except it's packaged in a wine botle and costs 10 times more than grape juice. :rolleyes:

    I guess my rant is brought about by the destruction of some very old, out of print cookbooks I had and I'm trying to find the REAL recipes and all I'm finding are these bastardized imitations. :grumpy:

    Am I the only one that thinks classic recipes are classic for a reason?
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2011
  2. jcsd
  3. Jul 21, 2007 #2

    Math Is Hard

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    Just like chicken cacciatore - only different!

    ay yi yi!
     
  4. Jul 21, 2007 #3

    Ivan Seeking

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    Does anyone know of a Mexican restaurant that still fries their own taco shells? I've noticed lately that even the better restaurants are using those crappy preformed shells that taste like paper.
     
  5. Jul 21, 2007 #4

    turbo

    User Avatar
    Gold Member

    Bad, bad, bad!
     
  6. Jul 21, 2007 #5

    G01

    User Avatar
    Homework Helper
    Gold Member

    Cheese baklava???????!!


    People have been saying the world is going to hell.....but until now I didn't believe them.:eek:
     
  7. Jul 21, 2007 #6

    radou

    User Avatar
    Homework Helper

    I'm hungry...again.
     
  8. Jul 21, 2007 #7

    Evo

    User Avatar

    Staff: Mentor

    I kid you not. The only ingredient this shares with baklava (which is a sweet desert pastry) is the phyllo. :rolleyes:

    Cheesy Brunch Baklava

    INGREDIENTS

    1 lb. Italian sausage
    1 cup chopped onion
    1 cup chopped red bell pepper
    2 cups (8 oz.) Sargento® Fancy Mozzarella Shredded Cheese
    1 cup Sargento® Part-Skim Ricotta Cheese
    1 egg, beaten
    16 sheets (about 1/2 pkg.) prepared frozen phyllo pastry, thawed
    Non-stick cooking spray


    DIRECTIONS

    Preparation Time: 20 minutes
    Baking Time: 35 minutes
    Serves: 8

    Cook sausage, onion and red pepper in large skillet over medium heat until meat is brown and crumbly; drain and cool. Combine Mozzarella cheese, Ricotta cheese, egg and sausage mixture; set aside.

    Spray 13x9-inch baking dish with non-stick cooking spray. Trim phyllo sheets to 13x9-inch. Working with one sheet at a time, (keep remaining phyllo covered), spray eight sheets with cooking spray.

    Place phyllo pastry into prepared baking dish. Spoon filling over phyllo. Spray remaining 8 sheets with cooking spray and layer over filling. Using a sharp knife, cut into 8 squares. Bake, uncovered, in preheated 400°F oven 35 minutes or until golden brown.

    http://www.sargentocheese.com/recipe/recipeDetail.jsp?recipeId=436
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2007
  9. Jul 21, 2007 #8

    G01

    User Avatar
    Homework Helper
    Gold Member

    Baklava is delicious. The only problem with it is that if you eat a 1in. X 1in. square you automatically have rotted teeth.:rolleyes:

    Italian Sausage in Baklava........AHHH!!......Might as well make apple pie with meatloaf in it, or tofu gyros, or chick pea falafel...o wait.....that last one is correct. Now I'm all confused!!!:grumpy:
     
  10. Jul 22, 2007 #9

    radou

    User Avatar
    Homework Helper

    Interesting, I never knew Baklava was popular in the west.
     
  11. Jul 22, 2007 #10

    Astronuc

    User Avatar

    Staff: Mentor

    Indeed! :grumpy:

    Honey is better than sugar.

    Anything other than those ingredients - it is NOT baklava!

    Now there is something called banitsa which is similar to the Cheesy Brunch Baklava, but banitsa is primarily phyllo and cheese without the meat. Sausage is OK, but thinly sliced prosciutto is better.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banitsa
     
  12. Jul 22, 2007 #11

    JasonRox

    User Avatar
    Homework Helper
    Gold Member

    Um... we have vegetarians today. Thought about that?

    I wouldn't eat that though. Sounds gross.
     
  13. Jul 22, 2007 #12

    Evo

    User Avatar

    Staff: Mentor

    The point though, is that it's no longer cacciatore. Cacciatore is a traditional rustic stew with meat, tomato sauce, mushrooms and olives.

    It's not chocolate mousse if it's made of fruit and no chocolate, it's not chicken if it doesn't contain chicken. But I see this happening all over the place. People taking a recipe and changing all of the ingredients so that the end product has nothing to do with the original.
     
  14. Jul 22, 2007 #13

    Evo

    User Avatar

    Staff: Mentor

    Actually, it's closer to spanakopita, at least that's not a sweet desert.
     
  15. Jul 22, 2007 #14

    Moonbear

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    Then why not call it tofu with mango chutney sauce? Why call it chicken cacciatore when it has no chicken and nothing resembling cacciatore?

    Those are the types of vegetarians I cannot understand. If you crave meat so badly you have to pretend everything is still meat, then just eat meat. Our hospital cafeteria is horribly guilty of this, serving such dishes as, "Meatless meatloaf." :confused: Why not call it a vegetable loaf? Though, I do find it more amusing when the name appears more like, "Vegetarian Meatloaf." Does that mean the meat comes from vegetarians? I mean, maybe they're nice and tender from being grain-fed, but... :uhh: :yuck:

    If you're creative enough to come up with a new recipe, think up a new name to go with it. I mean, that tofu dish actually does sound kind of tasty to me (or would if I liked tofu...but I can appreciate the concept), it's just that it's not even close to chicken cacciatore; it shouldn't even be called tofu cacciatore, because it's not even just a substitute of tofu for chicken.

    Hmm...meatless chicken...does that mean it's made with the bones, beak, and feathers? :biggrin: :yuck:
     
  16. Jul 22, 2007 #15
    Pity. A chef who reuses an existing name for an entirely different dish is missing a golden opportunity to be recognized as creator of this new dish. As a chef (which I am not) I would coin a new name for every new creation I come up with and become famous as its inventor. My cookbooks might sell much better.
     
  17. Jul 22, 2007 #16

    Math Is Hard

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    Chicken Out-of-Whackatore? :biggrin:
     
  18. Jul 22, 2007 #17

    G01

    User Avatar
    Homework Helper
    Gold Member

    I don't know how popular it is across the US, but it is definitely common where I'm from.
     
  19. Jul 22, 2007 #18

    morphism

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    Mango chutney in cacciatore and Italian sausage in baklava??? :confused:
     
  20. Jul 22, 2007 #19

    Evo

    User Avatar

    Staff: Mentor

    Frightening, isn't it.
     
  21. Jul 22, 2007 #20
    Right on! Doesn't it just scream "eat me"?
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?



Similar Discussions: Food blasphemy
  1. Foods (Replies: 12)

  2. Food cravings. (Replies: 9)

  3. Cheap food (Replies: 40)

  4. Food for thought (Replies: 8)

  5. Food at Disneyworld (Replies: 6)

Loading...