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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the motion of a ball fired vertically upward using compressed air. The problem includes concepts of force, acceleration, and gravity, specifically focusing on how high the ball rises above the top of a tube after being propelled.

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  • Participants explore various methods to calculate the acceleration of the ball and its subsequent height after leaving the tube. There are attempts to apply Newton's second law and kinematic equations, with some participants questioning the inclusion of gravitational force in their calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of considering net forces, but there is no clear consensus on the correct approach or solution as discrepancies in results persist.

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Participants note that the program used for inputting answers may not be accepting their calculations, suggesting there could be additional factors or assumptions that need to be addressed.

Kristin
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Hi, I've been working on my homework assignment, and there are a couple tricky questions that I hope someone can give me a few pointers on.

Question:
Compressed air is used to fire a 60 g ball vertically upward from a 5.3 m tall tube. The air exerts an upward force of 3.3 N on the ball as long as it is in the tube. How high does the ball go above the top of the tube?

I have tried a few things:
First, I tried finding the acceleration in the tube and then using that to find the speed at the end of the tube.

F=ma
a=55.0m/s/s
then vf^2=vi^2+2a*d
vf= 17.38 m/s

Then to find height, I used vf^2=vi^2+2a*d with vf from the tube as the new vi, and vf=0 because it's at the max height.
Using 0=17.38^2+2(-9.8)d
d=15.41 m (which is incorrect)

I also tried d=.5*gt^2 and got d=35m (also incorrect)

If anyone can give me a better direction, I would be very greatful,
 
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Kristin said:
I have tried a few things:
First, I tried finding the acceleration in the tube and then using that to find the speed at the end of the tube.

F=ma
a=55.0m/s/s
To find the acceleration, first find the net force on the ball. (You forgot about gravity.)
 
That makes sense, but following the same steps using net force as applied-gravity (net force= 2.712N), I get d to be 24.4 m, which is still not the correct answer.
 
That's the answer I get. (Your method is fine.)
 
The program that I am imputing the answers into still tells me that I don't have the correct answer, so I think that it might be missing something still.
 

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