F’r=50 Nsin 23.53F’r=14.07 NSolving Fr with Law of Sines

In summary, the conversation is about a problem involving freebody diagrams and solving for F' and Fr using the law of sines and law of cosines. The speaker is struggling with finding the angle for Fr without using autocad and seeks help from others. They provide the work they have done so far and mention the angles and calculations needed to solve the problem.
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Please look at this pic for the problem. http://thumb5.webshots.com/t/57/757/4/82/60/2732482600078932085VPLQzD_th.jpg
I have drawn the freebody diagrams correctly.
http://thumb5.webshots.com/t/53/453/3/64/60/2611364600078932085NMvdfG_th.jpg
http://thumb5.webshots.com/t/53/453/3/64/60/2611364600078932085NMvdfG_th.jpg
I solved for F' to be 14.07 N, but I can't solve Fr. I think the key to the problem is the law of sines. According to autocad the angle opposite Fr is 13 degrees, but how do I solve for that myself without autocad?

Here's some work I've done:

90-20=70 degrees

F’2=(50 N)2 + (20 N)2 -2(50 N)(20 N)cos(70)
F’=47.07 N

47.07 N 50 N
----------= -------- Θ=86.46 degrees
Sin 70 sin Θ

90-86.46= 23.53 degrees
 
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Basically, i just need to now how autocad computed one of the angles in the diagram to be 13 degrees.
 
  • #3
anybody? please!
 
  • #4
F2 and F3 "added" tail to head, form a triangle having adjacent sides of lengths 20 and 50 and angle 90- 20= 70 degrees between them. By the cosine law, the length of the third side is given by c2= 202+ 502- 2(20)(50)cos(70)= 2216 so c= 47N as you got. Further the angle that vector makes with the positive x-axis is given by the sine law:
[tex]\frac{sin \theta}{20}= \frac{sin 70}{47}[/tex]
so [itex]\theta[/itex]= 24 degrees.
F1 isn't given as an angle but apparently forms a "3-4-5" right triangle. It's not difficult to calculate that the angle F1 makes with the negative x-axis is given by [itex]tan(\theta)= \frac{3}{4}[/itex] so [itex]\theta[/itex]= 37 degrees.
Putting F' and F1 "tail to head" gives us a triangle with adjacent sides of lengths 30 and 47 and angle between them 37- 24= 13 degrees. Now use the cosine law again: The opposite side is given by
[tex]c^2= 30^2+ 47^2- 2(30)(47)cos(13)[/tex]
You can use the sine law again to find the direction.
 
  • #5
I agree with your results for F'.

The diagram with the problem indirectly indicates the angle of F1 with the 3,4,5 triangle. This means that the angle that it makes with the x-axis can be calculated with

[tex]arctan(\frac{3}{4})[/tex]
 
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What is F’r?

F’r is the force applied at an angle of 23.53 degrees, measured in Newtons (N).

How do you solve for F’r using the Law of Sines?

To solve for F’r using the Law of Sines, you will need to know the value of the angle (23.53 degrees) and the length of the opposite side (14.07 N). Using the equation F’r=50 Nsin 23.53, you can plug in the values and solve for F’r.

What is the significance of the Law of Sines in this equation?

The Law of Sines is a trigonometric rule that allows us to find the relationship between the sides and angles of a triangle. In this equation, the Law of Sines helps us solve for the missing force (F’r) by using the angle and length of the opposite side.

Can the Law of Sines be used in any triangle?

Yes, the Law of Sines can be used to solve for missing sides or angles in any triangle, as long as you have enough information (such as a known angle and side length).

Are there any other equations that can be used to solve for F’r?

Yes, there are other equations that can be used to solve for F’r, such as the Pythagorean theorem or the Law of Cosines. However, the Law of Sines is specifically useful for solving for missing sides in triangles with known angles.

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