Major Decision: Forestry vs Physics in High School

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In summary, the pros and cons of a forestry and physics major differ depending on the individual. Personally, I think it would be a good idea to study both and decide what is more interesting to you.
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I am a junior in high school and I was thinking about my major for next year. I am torn between two majors, physics and forestry. I was wondering what think about these majors? What do you think would be a better major not fousing soley on a salary, but still taken into consideration.
 
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Could you outline some more about the different choices, forestry is rather wide and inter-diciplinary... So it's a huge subject...
 
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Fearless said:
Could you outline some more about the different choices, forestry is rather wide and inter-diciplinary... So it's a huge subject...

Well I will be taking the forestry science program at penn state http://www.sfr.cas.psu.edu/ForestSci/ForestScience.html
 
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Also, take into account your hoped-for life-style. To some people, spending time cruising wood-lots and estimating timber yields can be a dream-job. You get out in the woods a lot and still get to exercise math skills, project tree-growth, and other stuff that requires calculations and models. With some states passing regulations restricting clear-cutting to one degree or another, timber companies need people who can survey their holdings and plot sustainable timber-harvest strategies.

You could get into forestry in a way that is less hands-on and keeps you in an office much of the time. There are so many jobs in forestry that it's hard to predict where you could end up. Another example: you could minor in entomology, for instance, and predict and track invasions of insects that attack valuable timber crops.

Have you looked at the course-descriptions of schools that have prominent forestry programs? That might give you some clues.

Edit: you slipped in that post while I was composing this one. The link to Penn is quite informative.
 
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Do you think a forestry and physics double major would be to much?
 
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Physics makes a hella lot more in most cases, and we get to shoot lasers at things more often. They're different enough that it depends solely on your interests.

glennpagano44 said:
Do you think a forestry and physics double major would be to much?

You'd have to look at the program requirements and check for scheduling issues, but probably not.
 
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Asphodel said:
Physics makes a hella lot more in most cases, and we get to shoot lasers at things more often. They're different enough that it depends solely on your interests.



You'd have to look at the program requirements and check for scheduling issues, but probably not.


That is the thing in my free time and on vacation I am usally in the woods hunting or other outdoor recreational activity, but when I have physics class I get really into it and focus on that a lot even out of school. I like both equally the same. The money coming from physics very lucrative and is the one of the only things that is making physics a little more inviting
 
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I've had jobs that I hated and made tons of money, jobs that I loved and made less money, and I found that for me, spending 8-10 hours a day doing something that I really enjoyed was worth giving up some money. That may not work for you, but it's the way I am. I spend a lot of time outdoors, and love fishing and hunting, etc, and the U of M had a great forestry program. I wish I had taken it instead of studying engineering (following the $$$).
 
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does anyone else have any input
 
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Physics is fascinating. Forestry is tedious.

A trek in the woods is enjoyable, but topics in physics are (to me) very intellectually rewarding. Plus how much longer are the Earth's forests going to be around anyway? A couple billion years at the most... wouldn't you prefer to study something that will be around for a significant amount of time?

But, I think you should follow whatever is more interesting and rewarding to you.
 
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Sheneron said:
Physics is fascinating. Forestry is tedious.

A trek in the woods is enjoyable, but topics in physics are (to me) very intellectually rewarding. Plus how much longer are the Earth's forests going to be around anyway? A couple billion years at the most... wouldn't you prefer to study something that will be around for a significant amount of time?

But, I think you should follow whatever is more interesting and rewarding to you.

That is the problem they both are rewarding and intersesting to me. I think forests are going to be around longer than that plus I am not going to be alive
 
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glennpagano44 said:
I think forests are going to be around longer than that

Between the Sun leaving the main sequence in 4.5 and the Andromeda collision in 3, not by much (assuming nothing else like large asteroid collisions or biosphere departure occurs first). Also keep in mind that a couple billion years is the timescale for which life on Earth has existed at all.

Interesting as that may be, you still won't be alive nearly that long. And were you to be, choosing between physics and forestry would be rather a non-issue.
 
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After looking through the student handbook pdf on the school website you posted, I noticed that under the Watershed Management option you would be required to take introductory courses in physics. Why not start off in that, and after you take the introductory physics courses, if you still feel like going on in physics you can switch majors. If not, you have at least gotten some prerequisites for your major out of the way. I would also recommend talking to someone in the forestry major to see how they like it because you are in a physics forum, and, naturally, most people here will prefer physics over forestry any day.
 
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Wormholes, black holes (billions of solar masses), parallel universes, gamma ray bursts that give off enormous amounts of energy, SETI, and time travel.
Or calculating timber yields.
Think of it this way, if you study physics and figure out a way to travel through time you could see some pretty amazing forests. Or if you are interested in wild life why not study physics/astronomy and do SETI.

You said that they are both equally interesting to you so it will be a hard decision; however, I think TheMonster gave solid advice. Also, I don't think there is any reason you have to come to definite decision now, and if you still haven't by the time undergrad comes around you could start off in forestry like previously suggested so you can take both intro classes.

If you do physics keep in mind that it will be a large commitment and you will likely have to go to grad school to get a job doing physics. I am not sure about forestry though.
 
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are there much career options for forestry??

It's very bleak for physics...so maybe just take the lower division stuff that forestry requires and take the upper div courses that interest you..without fulfilling a whole another major or minor. You don't want to be forced to take courses that aren't very interesting to you.
 
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oh and i meant take lower division physics that forestry requires so that u can take itnerestign upper div physics courses.
 
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You can do both. You can get a forestry job and do physics in your free time like Garrett Lisi. Or you can get a physics job and, uhm..., go on a lot of hikes.
 
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Alight I had a talk with my dad and he was saying that if I become a forester then I may not make enough money. He says that he went through the hard times hisself and says that now that he is making money he is much happier. He says I should think about the future when I have a wife and kid. If I am a forester I may not have enough money for my family but if I become a physicist I will have enough. What do you think? Will it be to much work to double major in physics and forestry?
 
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anyone?
 
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Talk to an adviser at the school of forestry at Penn and ask what kinds of jobs their curriculum prepares you for, and ask about the salary-ranges of those jobs. In rural Maine, (admittedly a low-wage region) foresters are often better-off financially than average folks. I attended high school with a number of kids whose fathers were foresters, back in the day when stay-at-home wives were the norm, and their families were considered to be well-off. You have to research the wage situation yourself and not rely on poorly informed opinion. Wages can vary quite a bit regionally, too. If you find yourself working for a big timber company that pays well, and they locate you in a region where the cost of living is fairly low, you'll be doing well financially.
 
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With my experience in looking for jobs for physics majors, I just don't thin kthere are enough good payign jobs related to physics. SO i wouldn't put much hope there. the availability and demand for physics majors isn't high. It's mostly engineering jobs that are open, but then you otta woryr bout outsourcing too. Engineers too don't may great sums of money. If i were you, i'd forget thinking of a career in physics. Too much hard work for so little.
 
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RasslinGod said:
With my experience in looking for jobs for physics majors, I just don't thin kthere are enough good payign jobs related to physics. SO i wouldn't put much hope there. the availability and demand for physics majors isn't high. It's mostly engineering jobs that are open, but then you otta woryr bout outsourcing too. Engineers too don't may great sums of money. If i were you, i'd forget thinking of a career in physics. Too much hard work for so little.[/QUOTE

I agree. Its just right now I live a great life my dad started his own funeral home $$ and I do not know how well I would do with a downgrade. I am also thinking about funeral director
 
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Make sure you ask here too: http://www.forestryforum.com/

Serisouly though, of everyone I knew who graduated with a physics/math+physics degree, none of them went to graduate school in physics.
 
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Does anyone here have a forestry degree?
 

1. What is the difference between studying forestry and physics in high school?

Forestry is the study of forests, trees, and other natural resources, while physics is the study of matter and energy and how they interact with each other. In high school, forestry classes may focus on topics such as tree identification, forest ecology, and conservation, while physics classes cover topics such as motion, forces, and electricity.

2. Which major is more challenging in high school, forestry or physics?

This can vary depending on the individual student's strengths and interests. Some may find forestry more challenging because it involves a lot of hands-on fieldwork and requires knowledge of specific tree species and ecosystems. Others may find physics more challenging because it involves complex mathematical equations and abstract concepts.

3. How can studying forestry or physics in high school prepare me for a career in these fields?

Studying forestry in high school can provide a strong foundation for a career in forestry, conservation, or environmental science. It can also provide practical skills for jobs in forestry management, such as tree planting and forest inventory. Similarly, studying physics in high school can prepare students for careers in engineering, research, or other fields that require a strong understanding of physics principles.

4. Can I pursue both forestry and physics in high school?

Yes, it is possible to take classes in both forestry and physics in high school. However, it may be more challenging to balance the workload and excel in both subjects, so it is important to carefully consider your interests and strengths before deciding on a major.

5. Are there any extracurricular activities or opportunities related to forestry or physics in high school?

Yes, there may be clubs or organizations at your school that focus on forestry or physics. Additionally, some high schools offer hands-on experiences, such as field trips or internships, related to these fields. It can also be helpful to seek out volunteer or job opportunities in your community that involve forestry or physics.

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