Solve 3 Integrals with Fourier Integral - Cyrus

In summary, the conversation discusses solving three integrals involving trigonometric functions and the use of trig identities and series to do so. The speaker also asks for clarification on the notation used.
  • #1
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Can someone please show me how to solve these three integrals, or proivde a link that does. I can't think of a way to solve it right now and I don't have any free time to do so. Thank you!


[tex] \int cos(nx)cos(mx)dx [/tex]

[tex] \int sin(nx)sin(mx)dx [/tex]

[tex] \int sin(nx)cos(mx) dx [/tex]

The thing that makes it tricky is the different coefficients of m and n in each trig term, so you can't make them cos^2(x) or sin^2(x) or use trig identities. (at least I can't see how). Anywho, thanks once more.


Cyrus. :smile:
 
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Trig identities.

sin(a+ b)= sin(a)cos(b)+ cos(a)sin(b)
sin(a- b)= sin(a)cos(-b)+ cos(a)sin(-b) but cos(-b)= cos(b) sin(-b)= -sin(b)
= sin(a)cos(b) - cos(a)sin(b)

Adding, sin(a+b)+ sin(a- b)= 2sin(a)cos(b).

To integrate sin(nx)cos(mx) let a= nx, b= mx to write
sin(nx)cos(mx)= (1/2)sin((m+n)x)+ (1/2)sin((m-n)x).

cos(a+ b)= cos(a)cos(b)- sin(a)sin(b)
cos(a- b)= cos(a)cos(b)+ sin(a)sin(b)

Adding, cos(a+b)+ cos(a-b)= 2cos(a)cos(b)
To integrate cos(nx)cos(mx), let a= nx, b= mx to write
cos(nx)cos(mx)= (1/2)cos((m+n)x)+ (1/2)cos((m-n)x)

Subtracting, cos(a+b)- cos(a-b)= 2sin(a)sin(b)
To integrate sin(nx)sin(mx), let a= nx, b= mx to write
sin(nx)sin(mx)= (1/2)cos((m+n)x)- (1/2)cos((m-n)x)
 
  • #3
cos(-b)= cos(b) sin(-b)= -sin(b)

Im not following how this is true, pluging in a value for b and none of them are comming out equal?

Ahhh, I figure your just missing a comma inbetween there. You meant cos(-b) = cos(b) and sin(-b)= - sin(b).

Thats a VERY clever trick to solve it. I would never have spotted it! Thanks!
 
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A follow up, can you show me how the series is reduced, its been a while since i touched a series, a long while.

[tex] cos(n \pi) = (-1) ^n [/tex]

My book says [tex] cos(x) = (-1)^n x^{2n} / (2n!) [/tex]

what happened to the fractional part?

The n is different for each equation, poor notation sorry.

Thanks twice.

Cyrus
 
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Isn't it more like

[tex] cos(x) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(-1)^n x^{2n} / (2n!) [/tex].

Your question is strangely worded. What do you mean by reduced?
 
  • #6
oops your right.
My question is how did they arrive at this:

[tex] cos(n \pi) = (-1) ^n [/tex]

oh, I see now, because its just positive of negative 1 depending on the coefficent. Crap. never mind......I got it now. :-)
 

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