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Free Food :)

http://www.unthinkkfc.com/

It's for real, I got a meal today, and it wasn't that bad either :biggrin:
 

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Eek! I hope you don't go there too often. Have you visited the food thread recently to get a feel of what actual human-food interaction might be like? :biggrin:
 
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I know, last monday was our free food day at KFC, and I forgot!
 
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Ahh, please tell me I am not going to die from it...
 
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Ahh, please tell me I am not going to die from it...
You probably won't die, but your female progeny will be born with little white goatees, and they will scream if they are not dressed in red-and-white stripes.
 
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Help!
 
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I can't think of any place we have a KFC around here. We probably do have one and I'm just forgetting where. As far as fast food goes, KFC isn't bad.

A lot of places have been having free food giveaways lately. I heard it's part of their strategy to stimulate business with the slowed economy. I guess once they get you in the door, they hope you'll either come back again, or buy more while there. I haven't gotten a chance to take advantage of any of them though. Carvel was giving away something last week, but our only Carvel is downtown.
 
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Did someone call me? Where's the free food?

I can't stand KFC. I've only eaten there once or twice, but I used to live near one. The smell just about makes me nauseous. The food wasn't that bad I guess, but I couldn't enjoy it. That batter stuff is the worst. They'd have to pay me to eat it.

Candy-striped babies with beatnik facial hair sounds great. If I had one I'd bounce him on my knee before bed time and sing Dance Magic Dance as a lullaby, and when he burped I'd say bless you. We'd have a dog called Lunch and a cat named Desayuno. I'd dress like David Bowie and we'd go door to door giving goblin cookies to the neighbors after midnight. Can I have one of your children? If not on a permanent basis, perhaps on layaway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UoG-xQ9Lqc
 
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Lets just say that when I eat KFC or Popeyes that stuff goes out of me faster than it came in :yuck:. My body just can't take KFC.
 
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My advising professor emailed out a coupon for this promotion this morning. I'm not a big fan of KFC but I am a poor grad student so I guess I'll try it.
 
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Lets just say that when I eat KFC or Popeyes that stuff goes out of me faster than it came in :yuck:. My body just can't take KFC.
It might not be just the grease, Cy. If Chinese food exits quickly, and some pre-packaged stuff made with dried soup mixes, like Lipton onion soup mixes, you might want to suspect a sensitivity to MSG. Even before it became a huge (life-threatening, actually for me) problem with most restaurants, I couldn't eat KFC, and that was in college almost 40 years ago. Their stuff is toxic. Food processers and restaurants don't have to admit to using MSG unless the additive stream is 97% pure glutamates. If you buy a bag of flavored chips that says "no MSG" and it lists "modified food starch" "hydrolyzed vegetable protein" "yeast extracts" "natural flavors" and over 50 other aliases you could be getting a huge dose in a handful of chips.
 
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When the Evo Child had chronic diarrhea when she was 2, her pediatrician told me to feed her greasy fried chicken and fries, he said that the fat would help to solidify her stool. I figured, what the heck. It worked! :bugeye:
 
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Does anybody know if "unfried" is a worldwide campaign, or only in the US?
 
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Does anybody know if "unfried" is a worldwide campaign, or only in the US?

I guess people in some countries have too much food and money...
 
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It might not be just the grease, Cy. If Chinese food exits quickly, and some pre-packaged stuff made with dried soup mixes, like Lipton onion soup mixes, you might want to suspect a sensitivity to MSG. Even before it became a huge (life-threatening, actually for me) problem with most restaurants, I couldn't eat KFC, and that was in college almost 40 years ago. Their stuff is toxic. Food processers and restaurants don't have to admit to using MSG unless the additive stream is 97% pure glutamates. If you buy a bag of flavored chips that says "no MSG" and it lists "modified food starch" "hydrolyzed vegetable protein" "yeast extracts" "natural flavors" and over 50 other aliases you could be getting a huge dose in a handful of chips.
turbo, I love you to death, but there is nothing wrong with MSG, the bad publicity is a myth. I researched it several years ago, and found nothing more that anecdotal stories of side effects from MSG, and scientific studies showed no effects from MSG.

Science: Why MSG myth is a load of chop suey

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14119082.400-science-why-msg-myth-is-a-load-of-chop-suey-.html

MSG Causes Headaches (aka Chinese Restaurant Syndrome): "Jeffery Steingarten, food editor of the Vogue in New York, debunked this myth pretty comprehensively. Given the widespread use of MSG in China, he asked why weren’t there a billion Chinese people with headaches? He then went around relentlessly researching the theory in his characteristically thorough way, and came to the conclusion that MSG, taken in normal quantities, was perfectly safe." (I know many people who swear they get headaches after eating MSG, so I'm reluctant to accept this as an urban legend. But some quick research reveals that a controlled study at Harvard University also concluded that MSG in food doesn't cause headaches.)
 
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turbo, i love you to death, but there is nothing wrong with MSG, the bad publicity is a myth. I researched it several years ago, and founf nothing more that anecdotal stories of side effects from MSG, and scientific studied showed no effects from MSG.

Science: Why MSG myth is a load of chop suey

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14119082.400-science-why-msg-myth-is-a-load-of-chop-suey-.html

MSG Causes Headaches (aka Chinese Restaurant Syndrome): "Jeffery Steingarten, food editor of the Vogue in New York, debunked this myth pretty comprehensively. Given the widespread use of MSG in China, he asked why weren’t there a billion Chinese people with headaches? He then went around relentlessly researching the theory in his characteristically thorough way, and came to the conclusion that MSG, taken in normal quantities, was perfectly safe." (I know many people who swear they get headaches after eating MSG, so I'm reluctant to accept this as an urban legend. But some quick research reveals that a controlled study at Harvard University also concluded that MSG in food doesn't cause headaches.)

What about http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/monosodium-glutamate/AN01251? About the billion Chinese with headaches - maybe they don't use MSG at home, it's just a restaurant thing - which they don't go to that often? Also, to be rigourous :tongue2:, did the Harvard study use Chinese food or American food?
 
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http://www.unthinkkfc.com/

It's for real, I got a meal today, and it wasn't that bad either :biggrin:

So does grilled taste just as good as original fried?
 
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What about http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/monosodium-glutamate/AN01251? About the billion Chinese with headaches - maybe they don't use MSG at home, it's just a restaurant thing - which they don't go to that often? Also, to be rigourous :tongue2:, did the Harvard study use Chinese food or American food?
Your link says
Monosodium glutamate (MSG) is a flavor enhancer commonly added to Chinese food, canned vegetables, soups and processed meats. Although the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has classified MSG as a food ingredient that is "generally recognized as safe," the use of MSG remains controversial.

MSG has been used as a food additive for decades. Over the years, the FDA has received many anecdotal reports of adverse reactions to foods containing MSG. But subsequent research found no definitive evidence of a link between MSG and the symptoms that some people described after eating food containing MSG. As a result, MSG is still added to some foods.

I did have a quite exhaustive peer-reviewed study that once and for all debunked the myth, but it's on my old computer. I will have to see if I can find it.
 
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MSG sensitivity is not a myth, Evo. The food industry can crank out peer-reviewed studies all they want to defend their profits. I would like them to interview the ER doctor that withheld epinephrine until my BP was down in the twenties over teens, with ER nurses telling her to dump the epi into my IV. When the nurse monitoring my BP hollered "we're losing him" the doctor relented. All three of them had to restrain me during the convulsions that followed, and when I woke up 4-5 hours later, the doctor was at my bedside with tears in her eyes, apologizing profusely because she thought that anaphylaxis due to MSG ingestion was a "myth". She doesn't think that any more.
 
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MSG sensitivity is not a myth, Evo. The food industry can crank out peer-reviewed studies all they want to defend their profits. I would like them to interview the ER doctor that withheld epinephrine until my BP was down in the twenties over teens, with ER nurses telling her to dump the epi into my IV. When the nurse monitoring my BP hollered "we're losing him" the doctor relented. All three of them had to restrain me during the convulsions that followed, and when I woke up 4-5 hours later, the doctor was at my bedside with tears in her eyes, apologizing profusely because she thought that anaphylaxis due to MSG ingestion was a "myth". She doesn't think that any more.
Oliver Sacks asserts that some people with Migraine are highly intolerant of MSG:

"In milder cases, there is just a feeling of malaise, with some shivering, pallor, borborygmus, and nausea; in more severe cases there may be absolute prostration, with severe visceral and vascular upset (including a typical vascular headache), a confused and even delerious mental state and considerable faintness, if not actual 'fainting'."

Migraine, p.153

I happened to note and remember this because a guy who hangs out at La Souris Perdue blamed a Chinese Restaurant that recently opened across the street for two bouts of food poisoning he had after eating there. He wasn't sure the first instance was caused by that place or somewhere else he'd eaten, so he gave it another shot and had the same bad result. No one else has complained about it, though. Then I happened to read this quote in Sacks and I suspect he may be a migraineur.
 
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Oliver Sacks asserts that some people with Migraine are highly intolerant of MSG:

"In milder cases, there is just a feeling of malaise, with some shivering, pallor, borborygmus, and nausea; in more severe cases ther may be absolute prostration, with severe visceral and vascular upset (including a typical vascular headache), a confused and even delerious mental state and considerable faintness, if not actual 'fainting'."

Migraine, p.153
It can be worse than that. I don't remember driving myself to Penobscot Valley Hospital, nor asking for directions to it, though I must have because I had never been there. I remember showing up at the ER and the triage nurse calling for a wheelchair saying that there was someone going into shock. The next thing I remember was a shouting match in the ER with a nurse practically screaming at the doctor to administer epinephrine. I remember some of the convulsions because that was incredibly painful, and I remember the doctor and the two nurses packing me in hot blankets afterward because my my temperature was so low. I don't know how I managed to fall asleep (pass-out is probably a better description) after a large bolus of epinephrine, but I was out for hours.

To any unbelievers out there, PM me, get your doctor to request a transfer of my medical records from Penobscot Valley Hospital, and I will gladly sign it and return it. My 2-years-younger cousin has also developed an extreme sensitivity to MSG. He is the lead project manager on the upcoming HST service mission, so he is not a nut-case (nor am I). He and his wife adopted a vegan diet after he had a few close calls.
 
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It can be worse than that. I don't remember driving myself to Penobscot Valley Hospital, nor asking for directions to it, though I must have because I had never been there. I remember showing up at the ER and the triage nurse calling for a wheelchair saying that there was someone going into shock. The next thing I remember was a shouting match in the ER with a nurse practically screaming at the doctor to administer epinephrine. I remember some of the convulsions because that was incredibly painful, and I remember the doctor and the two nurses packing me in hot blankets afterward because my my temperature was so low. I don't know how I managed to fall asleep (pass-out is probably a better description) after a large bolus of epinephrine, but I was out for hours.

To any unbelievers out there, get your doctor to request a transfer of my medical records from Penobscot Valley Hospital, and I will gladly sign it and return it. My 2-years-younger cousin has developed an extreme sensitivity to MSG. He is the lead project manager on the upcoming HST service mission, so he is not a nut-case (nor am I). He and his wife adopted a vegan diet after he had a few close calls.

Is your sensitivity due to Migraine? There seems to be a lot of people whose Migraine attacks are linked to their allergies.
 
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I don't have any particular sensitivity to MSG, but it's one of the few things I actively try to avoid due to health risks. It really irks me that it's so hard to find meats that aren't pumped full of this sh*t!
 
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Is your sensitivity due to Migraine? There seems to be a lot of people whose Migraine attacks are linked to their allergies.
I get migraines when I am exposed to fragrance chemicals and when I ingest glutamates. I suspect that the neural exitors are the culprits in both instances. With glutamates, my BP ends up plummeting as I slip into anaphylactic shock, and with fragrance chemicals, my BP goes from normal 135/90 to 200+/90. The BP spread concerns my doctor who fears that embolism or stroke could result, and that's why I can no longer spend much time in public. The profusion of "unscented" products made with "masking fragrances" enhances the danger, since I cannot smell them and get away. Unscented Oil of Olay moisturizing lotion is a really bad one. My wife bought a bottle of that a few years ago and started putting some on her hands. I was unaware of that, with my back toward her, working on my computer. I seized up (breathing) with almost immediate migraine and ran out to the front deck. It was winter, and she had to open all the windows and air out the house for a couple of hours before I could go back in. That stuff is nasty! The purpose of the masking fragrances is to block your sense of smell so that you can't smell the odors of the other ingredients. It works very well.
 
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I don't have any particular sensitivity to MSG, but it's one of the few things I actively try to avoid due to health risks. It really irks me that it's so hard to find meats that aren't pumped full of this sh*t!
Almost all commercially-available poultry and pork is crammed with it. It is injected into the meat in a saline solution prior to packaging. I have adverse reactions to almost all commercially-packed poultry now, and feel lucky to have some local farms offering free-range, minimally-processed chickens and turkeys.
 
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To say MSG is bad and should not be used for the normal public because some people claim it bothers them is to say that milk is bad and should not be used by the public because some people are lactose intolerant. :rolleyes:

At least lactose intolerance has been proven.

And my BP was 185/100 yesterday. And I didn't die. I didn't even feel unusual. The doctor yelled at me to remember my BP medicine though. High systolic (the top number) pressure is a sign of anxiety. It can be raised if you are having an anxiety attack, are in pain, or have been exercising. It's the lower number that is indicative of heart disease. If your systolic BP is going up acutely, I would think panic attack. Perhaps you could try something like ativan the next time you smell something that panics you, it could work.
 
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To say MSG is bad and should not be used for the normal public because some people claim it bothers them is to say that milk is bad and should not be used by the public because some people are lactose intolerant. :rolleyes:
I will gladly provide evidence that when "some people claim" it bothers them, they are describing life-threatening situations when ER personnel are scrambling. If you choose to believe Archer-Daniels-Midland, and other agri-businesses, that's your prerogative, but their "peer-reviewed studies" mean nothing. When I was having asthma problems in a work-place, the workers-comp insurance company had my case reviewed by a doctor who participated in a "study" that had found that people with asthma never had any trouble with tobacco smoke, and that their complaints were "subjective" only. We know that tobacco smoke can be a pretty powerful trigger in asthmatics, yet Jon Musmand is willing to sign on for $2000/per hour to nay-say any doctor that tries to protect the health of their patients.
 
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I get migraines when I am exposed to fragrance chemicals and when I ingest glutamates.
How do you react to caffein?
 
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How do you react to caffein?
It can help alleviate asthma and can help tamp down my reactions to MSG, but those are slow-reacting and are not as reliable as other drugs. Epinephrine works pretty well, but I hate to use it because it makes me feel like I'm going to bust. I have bought and discarded years' worth of Epi-pen auto-injectors to have it on hand while dreading the side-effects.
 
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turbo, have you seen a psychiatrist? Your condition could be easily treatable with anti-anxiety medications. It could mean you can get back to a regular life without fear.

http://ww1.cpa-apc.org:8080/publications/archives/Bulletin/2003/april/binkley.asp
Are you qualified to pass out medical advice here? I have been treated by probably the most respected respiratory specialist in Maine and arguably the most highly-qualified chemical-injury specialist (currently teaching and practicing at Dartmouth-Hitchcock) in the Northeast and perhaps in the country. You can keep your home-grown diagnoses to yourself, thank you.
 
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Turbo, I recall you saying the papermill you worked at years ago had nasty chemicals that caused a lot of health related problems in workers there. I wonder if your sensitivity to fragrances is a result from working at the plant? Have you ever considered this?
 
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Are you qualified to pass out medical advice here? I have been treated by probably the most respected respiratory specialist in Maine and arguably the most highly-qualified chemical-injury specialist (currently teaching and practicing at Dartmouth-Hitchcock) in the Northeast and perhaps in the country. You can keep your home-grown diagnoses to yourself, thank you.
I'm just saying that they can't find anything physical to treat and it's ruining your life, you should not rule out that it's psychiatric and can easily be treated with anti-anxiety medicines. You mentioned once, I believe, that you were told you had MCS (multiple chemical sensitivity) which is considered a psychiatric condition, reclassified now as IEI (Idiopathic environmental intolerance). It's nothing to be embarrassed about, it's not something you can control on your own, it can be treated with medication.

It's awful to see you back yourself into a hole when routinely available anti-anxiety medicines would make you feel normal again. You should go and get evaluated. It might be the best thing you've ever done. If you try them and they don't work, then at least you've tried, I wouldn't give up just because they can't find a physical cause to treat.

You're a lovely person, and I hate seeing you this way. Don't rule out anxiety attacks.
 
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Turbo, I recall you saying the papermill you worked at years ago had nasty chemicals that caused a lot of health related problems in workers there. I wonder if your sensitivity to fragrances is a result from working at the plant? Have you ever considered this?
Certainly, Cy. There is no knowing what ended up in the waste-products of a Kraft-digestion pulp mill, and some of the organic chemicals in plants have proven to be very potent agents in human health. We know that a camphor compound (now known as taxol) can help suppress some cancers - how many others can cause or accelerate cancers? That will never be known. Nobody will pursue epidemiology studies for a small group of workers.
 
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This thread's gone way off topic, so I think it's time to close it.
 

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