Let me start here... There are two known variables which fabricate a persons behavior. One being genetics, the other being enviroment... it does not matter the proportion of each. the only thing that matters is that they are unchangebable by the person under the influence of these two variables... So, we have two known variables that constitute a person... and both are unmanipulative by the person under the influence... (Think about it) So I now ask, where is the free will in every decision that you make in your lifetime has been based on random and uncontrollable happenings in the past... But you say that to a certain extent my theory works, but inevitably these 2 variables do not decide our whole life. I ask, why do not these 2 variables extend to every crevice of our minds and bodies? what explanations do you have behind your judgement? and secondly, if we do somehow differ and we are able to make our own decisions, how do our brains differ from any other physical object? physical objects are completely dependent and consequently evolve with change... what factors make our brain any different? None that i know of... So in saying that, are brain, the control center for all thought, is totally dependent upon outside forces acting upon it, and consequently changes in response to these outside forces. So, i shall return to my thesis by saying that we are completely controlled by outside forces and are at the mercy of random happenings from our past which constitue the decisions we make in the present... So now we can conclude that through scientific decuction, free will is not existant... Anything contrary to this is pure speculation... I am not proving anything here... The only thing i am showing you is that there are 2 sides here; One of those sides is backed up by scientific deduction, The other, purely speculatory... Any questions?