# Friction Problem

1. Oct 6, 2004

### AtlBraves

I am having trouble with this problem. I found the answer to a to be 14 N, but the online quiz says it is wrong. Fx-f=0. Fcos(theta)-f=0. f=18cos40=14 N. What am I doing wrong?

A 3.5 kg block is pushed along a horizontal floor by a force F of magnitude 18 N at an angle = 40° with the horizontal (Figure 6-20). The coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and floor is 0.25.
(a) Calculate the magnitude of the frictional force on the block from the floor.
(b) Calculate the magnitude of the block's acceleration acceleration.

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2. Oct 6, 2004

### arildno

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3. Oct 6, 2004

### Pyrrhus

$$F_{x} - F_{f}$$ is not 0, It is moving on the x-axis.

Remember

$$F_{f} = \mu N$$

4. Oct 6, 2004

### arildno

Note that the NORMAL force acting on the block must be GREATER than the weight, due the vertical component of F.
Hence, the frictional force is also greater..

5. Oct 6, 2004

### AtlBraves

So if $$F_{f} = \mu N,$$ then $$F_{f} = \mu * (mg+18sin40) = .25 * ((3.5*9.8)+18sin40) = 12 N?$$

6. Oct 6, 2004

### arildno

That looks correct, yes.
(Do you understand, to your own satisfaction, why you need that addition to the weight?)
I haven't checked your numbers, though..

7. Oct 6, 2004

### AtlBraves

Oops. I mistyped. The correct answer is 11 N I'm hoping. Yes I do now see why the normal force is greater than the weight. Thanks for all of the help.

8. Oct 6, 2004

### arildno

Perhaps you shouldn't round down to an integer answer.