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Programs From Masters to PhD

  1. Mar 4, 2008 #1
    My Plan
    I plan on applying to the Univeristy of Washington's and Washington State Masters program (terminal) Although the program is not designed such that one could move on to a PhD in the process. I was thinking of getting a Masters in Physics (condensed matter) with a final Thesis, and If I do well and enjoy it as much as I think I will. Then I will apply again to a PhD program to other schools, hopefully with good recommendations and good grades apply to some top twenty schools.

    The Question:
    Is this reasonable?
    do schools accept people with this background?

    Any Advice would be much appreciated
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  3. Mar 4, 2008 #2
    What's your undergrad degree? Is there any particular reason you don't want to do a Ph.D. program now, when you could drop out with a master's if that's what you wanted to do?

    I chose to do a terminal master's because I didn't feel prepared enough to start a doctoral program immediately after undergrad. I'm glad I did, I really wouldn't have been prepared for a full doctoral program at the time. Now I'm in better shape, academically, and I know better what I want to do in a doctoral program (eventually).
  4. Mar 4, 2008 #3
    That sounds reasonable to me. The only concern I would have is the cost of applying to 20 Ph.D. programs! Application fees and transcript fees add up.
  5. Mar 4, 2008 #4
    I am graduating with a BS in Biology and finishing up physics minor. I have taken all but four elective courses for a physics BS but I found out that I can jump into a physics masters program any way. I have a 2.45 GPA so I thought it would be a good way to boost my credentials. this is my fifth year so the school really wants to kick me out :) .

    I meant to say that I want to apply to schools in the top twenty. :)
  6. Mar 4, 2008 #5
    With a 2.45 GPA, do you think its reasonable to apply in 'top schools'...?
  7. Mar 4, 2008 #6
    After a Masters Degree maybe
  8. Mar 4, 2008 #7

    Vanadium 50

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    I don't think this plan will do what you want.

    The UW program says in bold letters: This program is not intended as preparation for a PhD Program. You need to realize your preparation is poor: you don't have a BS in physics, and your GPA is very, very poor. Adding a degree that specifically states that it is not intended for preparation for a PhD does not improve your preparation.

    That's assuming you even get in the program with a 2.45 and no degree in physics. This is not guaranteed.

    Frankly, the only way you are going to get in a top school with a 2.45 and no physics degree is with a letter of recommendation from a recognized name that says something like "best student in the past 10 years".
  9. Mar 4, 2008 #8
    I agree with that, from what I have seen most grad schools don't admit people with less than a 3.5, and that is on the low end for applying to a Masters program.
  10. Mar 4, 2008 #9
    Alright, forget the top school I just want to study physics at the graduate level and I think getting a masters degree would be a good way to do that.
  11. Mar 4, 2008 #10
    Your GPA is sh1t poor. And its in life sciences.

    The only way you'd get into a physics PhD... I'll spare you, you wont.

    Up those grades in another year or choose crappy school. I sure as hell wouldnt want a C student telling me of his research on condensed matter.
  12. Mar 4, 2008 #11

    That is why I think I will apply through the masters program first and not try to immediately go for the PhD. Afterwards based on how I do, I will then consider a PhD program. I am not trying to apply for the PhD. straight out of my undergrad.
  13. Mar 4, 2008 #12
    A masters program won't accept a C student either....
    I am applying to masters programs at top Canadian schools, with lots of research experience and a 3.7 and its still hit or miss (I haven't received any rejections yet but I anticipate the possibility) As for not good schools, they still won't accept anyone below a 3.0 into a masters program.
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  14. Mar 5, 2008 #13

    Andy Resnick

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    After all the discussion (some of which I disagree with), I still don't understand what you intend to do with your education, Ph.D. or no. Do you have a 5-year plan? A 10-year plan? Are you staying in school as a means to avoid getting a job?
  15. Mar 5, 2008 #14
    My plan is to work in industry after getting a masters degree in the next five years.
  16. Mar 5, 2008 #15
    Master degree at a decent school is more than you might imagine now, let not talk about PhDs.

    If you can get into a master programme, do it, because I dont think you stand a chance to get into PhD from your status now. PhD in analytical discipline is more demanding than you have faced so far I am certain.
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