I've got Geforce 4 128MB graphics card and i was astonished on what it can do. I played Star Trek Elite force yesterday and the graphics on that is amazing. I had a old voodoo 4 before, very old card, only with 32MB and its ****. I was going to get a voodoo 5 but decided to get a top end good stable card, which will run alot of games, without any problems hopefully. What i dont understand is why people use 3rd party drivers? some people say to be able to tweak their card, very true. if your a hardcore gamer then yeah. I update my drivers not very often due to that i only play games that appeal to me like everyone else has their own preference of gaming.