# Homework Help: Gas expansion question (stupid)

1. Jul 27, 2011

### Keyzeroff

1. There is gas tank, contains 5 liters of CO2 under pressure 14.7 MPa, temperatute is 300K. I try to calculate, what temperature gas will have after release (to atmospheric 0.1 MPa and 2000 liters volume). But I cannot :(

2. volume * pressure / temperature = const

3. The attempt at a solution
To simplify, lets say it releases without any other expenses and all at once (ideal container without ability to transfer or store energy, no resistence from atmospheric air, etc).

5 liters *14.7 MPa /300Kelvin = 2000 liters *0.1 MPa /t2
73.5/300 = 200 /t2
0.245=200/t2
t2=816. Whoa! It become hot instead!

Can anybody point me where I am wrong?
Thank You.

2. Jul 27, 2011

### kuruman

Hi Keyzeroff and welcome to PF.

You have to assume an adiabatic expansion, i.e. that no heat leaves or enters the gas, and use the appropriate equation for such an expansion instead of the ideal gas law.

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Have you stated the problem correctly? It seems that you value for the volume is too large for an adiabatic expansion.

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3. Jul 27, 2011

### Keyzeroff

kuruman, what equation for this case?

4. Jul 27, 2011

### kuruman

pVγ = constant where γ = Cp/CV.

5. Jul 27, 2011

### Keyzeroff

kuruman,
Maybe. In simple words - there is gas container with co2, and i want to calculate roughly temperature of releasing gas stream. I thought I can assume ideal gas equation ( no energy lost during release).

6. Jul 27, 2011

### kuruman

OK, but how do you know that the final volume is 2000 liters? Is that given to you or did you guess a value? I agree with your assessment that the temperature has to drop. For that to happen the final product pV must be less than the initial product pV. In your case it is not. What I suggest that you do is