Okay, today is a clearing-out day. I posted one thread about an unresolved question that came up in a thread . . . here's another. Those who say humans are wholly a product of evolution, genetic programming and conditioning nonetheless seem to insist that the varieties humans come in -- races, gender, nose shape, boob/thingy size etc. -- are not contrary to some supposed principle of equality inherent in humanity. Consider these comments from the thread, Nature or Nurture?: "When they have experienced one alleged scientist [beginning] a discussion by rationally talking about genetic differences between races, and winding up by saying blacks are inferior to whites, they are not going to wait for the next geneticist to finish. That next geneticist may very well be discussing the dangers of sickle-cell anemia, but as soon as he starts discussing genetic, racial differences, the audience smells racism and his message fails to reach them. It is wrong. It is unfortunate. It is also very understandable. Combatting this mentality requires not just education in science, but also education in human nature." After reading that I said: "What I don't understand is how someone can be certain there aren't superior races if he/she believes that humans are entirely a product of material processes. In that view, the universe hasn't guaranteed equality between the races, and there is nothing special about humanity over any other physical manifestation in creation. So why then couldn't the Black race be utterly inferior to the White race, or men superior to women, or any other twist evolution wants to give life?" Would anyone care to explain why equality should be assumed if one believes only material processes have brought us about?