Understanding Geodesic Parametrization on a Sphere

In summary: In your case:##L = \sqrt{\dot{\theta}^2+sin^2(\theta)\dot{\phi}^2}##so:##\dfrac{d}{d\lambda} (\dot{\theta}) = -\dfrac{1}{2} \dfrac{\partial}{\partial \theta} (\dot{\theta}^2 + \sin^2(\theta) \dot{\phi}^2)##and:##\dfrac{d}{d\lambda} (sin^2(\theta) \dot{\phi}) = -\dfrac{1}{2} \dfrac{\partial}{\partial \phi} (\dot{\theta}^2 + \
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Let us consider a sphere of a unit radius . Therefore, by choosing the canonical spherical coordinates ##\theta## and ##\phi## we have, for the differential length element:

$$dl = \sqrt{\dot{\theta}^2+sin^2(\theta)\dot{\phi}^2} $$

In order to find the geodesic we need to extremize the following:

$$ \int_{\lambda_0}^{\lambda_f} {\sqrt{\dot{\theta}^2+sin^2(\theta)\dot{\phi}^2}} d\lambda $$

We can do it so by imposing the Euler-Lagrange equations for the lagrangian ## L = \sqrt{\dot{\theta}^2+sin^2(\theta)\dot{\phi}^2} ## or equivalently, for the lagrangian ## L' = L^2 ##. These equations for L' look like:

$$ \ddot{\theta} +sin(\theta)cos(\theta)\dot{\phi}^2 = 0 $$

$$ \ddot{\phi}+ cot(\theta) \dot{\phi}\dot{\theta}=0 $$

I am pretty sure that I am right until here.
What does not make sense to me is the following:
Suppose you choose a curve in which ## \theta = \pi/2## i.e. both its first and second derivative vanish.
Then we get the following condition:

$$ \ddot{\phi} = 0 $$

But why does that happen? Once we have fixed the angle ## \theta## we have also fixed the curve (geodesic) and the only condition on ##\phi(\lambda)## should be that it is continuous and injective (i.e., it does not make ##\phi## go back and forth).
For example, the parametrization ##\phi(\lambda) = \frac{\lambda^2}{2\pi}## (which does not have a null second derivative) from ##\lambda_0 = 0## to ##\lambda_f =2 \pi## should be as valid as the parametrization ##\phi(\lambda) = \lambda## from ##\lambda_0 = 0## to ## \lambda_f = 2\pi ##.Thanks in advance.
 
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To extremise with Lagrangian ##L## is not equivalent to extremising with ##L^2##. If you use ##L^2## it is the same as using ##L## with the additional requirement that ##L## is constant and doing so will therefore give you an affinely parametrised geodesic - ie, a geodesic with a constant length tangent. This coincides with the geodesic concept introduced by a connection.
 
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To extremise with Lagrangian ##L## is not equivalent to extremising with ##L^2##. If you use ##L^2## it is the same as using ##L## with the additional requirement that ##L## is constant and doing so will therefore give you an affinely parametrised geodesic - ie, a geodesic with a constant length tangent. This coincides with the geodesic concept introduced by a connection.
Great answer. Many thanks.
 
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It's worth going through the exercise. In general, if ##L## is a "lagrangian" of the form:

##L = \sqrt{g_{ij} \dfrac{dx^i}{d\lambda} \dfrac{dx^j}{d\lambda}}##

then extremizing the action gives:

##\dfrac{d}{d\lambda} (g_{i j} \dfrac{dx^j}{d\lambda}) - \dfrac{1}{2} (\dfrac{\partial}{\partial x^i} g_{kj}) \dfrac{dx^k}{d\lambda} \dfrac{dx^j}{d\lambda} = g_{ij} \dfrac{dx^j}{d\lambda} \dfrac{\frac{dL}{d\lambda}}{L}##

The additional requirement that ##L## is unchanging as a function of ##\lambda## gives the usual form of the geodesic equation.
 

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