Geometric mechanisms of non-gravitational forces?

In summary, the conversation discusses the conception of gravity as not being a "force" but rather a consequence of motion through curved geometry. The question is raised if there are analogues for the other forces and if they could also be explained through geometry. Theoretical mechanisms for the attractive/repulsive properties of non-gravitational forces are also discussed. The conversation concludes with the idea that at the present time, the combination of the other forces and gravity remains uncertain.
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Just wondering... so the conception is that gravity is not really a "force" but rather the consequence of shortest-path motion through curved geometry. Are there analogues for the other forces? I know gravity is not yet theoretically unified with the other forces. But is there nonetheless some conception of, say, the attractions and repulsions of the electromagnetic force actually being a consequence of motion of matter through strange geometry rather than a "force" as we usually think of the word? If not, what is the theoretical mechanism of the attractive/repulsive properties of non-gravitational forces and how do they differ from gravity?
 
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The question is imo if gravity represents interconnectivity of everything. If your definition includes interconnectivity the basic 'gravity system' must be primary (first) to matter. In that case also EM and radiation is also includes in the geometry of spacetime curvature.
In my idea everything is just restructered gravity.
 
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Originally posted by hypnagogue
Just wondering... so the conception is that gravity is not really a "force" but rather the consequence of shortest-path motion through curved geometry. Are there analogues for the other forces? I know gravity is not yet theoretically unified with the other forces. But is there nonetheless some conception of, say, the attractions and repulsions of the electromagnetic force actually being a consequence of motion of matter through strange geometry rather than a "force" as we usually think of the word? If not, what is the theoretical mechanism of the attractive/repulsive properties of non-gravitational forces and how do they differ from gravity?

Quantum physics would say no, and gravity isn't either, it's carried by a particle, the graviton.

GR per se doesn't know about anything but gravity.

QGR, like GR is all about gravity (well, all about quantizing spacetime) and doesn't say anything about other forces, but I would think that their enterprise would be eventually to provide some account of the other forces in the context of quantized spacetime. I have no idea what that would be.


At the present time the combination of the other forces and gravity continues to be shaky.
 

1. What are geometric mechanisms of non-gravitational forces?

Geometric mechanisms of non-gravitational forces refer to the physical principles and laws that govern the interactions between objects, such as forces of friction and tension, without the influence of gravity. These mechanisms are based on the geometry and shape of objects, and how they affect the forces acting upon them.

2. How do geometric mechanisms affect non-gravitational forces?

Geometric mechanisms play a crucial role in determining the magnitude and direction of non-gravitational forces. For example, the angle of incline or the shape of a surface can significantly impact the amount of friction between two objects.

3. What are some examples of geometric mechanisms of non-gravitational forces?

Some examples of geometric mechanisms of non-gravitational forces include the use of pulleys and levers, which use the geometry of their shape to increase or decrease the magnitude of forces. Another example is the use of different surface textures, such as rough or smooth surfaces, which can affect the amount of friction between objects.

4. How do scientists study geometric mechanisms of non-gravitational forces?

Scientists use a combination of mathematical equations and experiments to study geometric mechanisms of non-gravitational forces. They may also use computer simulations to model and predict the behavior of these forces in different scenarios.

5. Why is understanding geometric mechanisms of non-gravitational forces important?

Understanding geometric mechanisms of non-gravitational forces is crucial for various applications, such as engineering and design. By understanding how different shapes and geometries affect forces, scientists and engineers can create more efficient and effective systems and structures. Additionally, studying these mechanisms can also help us better understand the behavior of objects in the natural world.

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