Geometric Tolerances: Standards & Definitions

In summary: Every coordinate measurement machine (CMM) must conform to ANSI Y14.5M, but this standard is relative to how measurements are determined. Additionally, all CAD programs must adhere to this standard or they will be impossible to reference properly. Lastly, there are numerous courses taught through out the country that teach students how to properly apply tolerancing standards.
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Geometric Tolerances - Do standards for defining "general geometric tolerances" exist

For example, if I want to define non-geometric tolerances for the whole part, I just write what type of IT it is. For instance, IT8. And then the manufacturer just looks at the chart to know the tolerances he should use.

Now, if I want to define general GEOMETRIC tolerances for the whole part - is there a standard for that? Or do I have to define everything one by one?
 
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GTOL are fairly specific depending on the datum's used. So it's probably best to define each one individually.
 
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for complete discussion on this consult "Dimensioning and Tolerancing" ANSI Y14.5M published by the American Society of Mechanical Engineers.
I am not sure of latest version.
hope it helps..
rm
 
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I'm not aware of any such standard. I've always had to call out all tolerances on all dimensions. However, generally the title block of a drawing defines default tolerances so you don't need to call out tolerances on every dimension such as for linear dimensions (example is in inches):
x.x = +/- 0.100
x.xx = +/- 0.030
x.xxx = +/- 0.005

They do the same for angular dimensions.
 
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Q, just google GD&T..many many links to it and helpful courses
ANSI Y14 is pretty much the tolerancing standard in industry. Every Coordinate Measurement Machine (CMM) sold must conform to this standard relative to how measurements are determined. I have been selling CMMs and been in the Metrology business since 1980. If ANSI had not made this standard we would have total chaos and no one would be able to manufacture anything to any type of quality.
ALL CAD programs must adhere to this standard otherwise how would things be referenced properly to the “ part print” or desired engineering specifications. BTW, AP 219 is the ANSI specification for CAD but has not ben approved as a standard tyo date.
Finally , there are numerous courses taught through out the country teaching students what the standard means and how to properly apply them.
 
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Hi Ranger. I'm well aware of Y14.5, but I don't think that's what the OP is asking about. The question I believe is whether or not one can call out a single 'standard' for tolerancing a drawing such that all dimensions put on that drawing have a tolerance automatically associated with them. The example given by the OP is a ficticious "IT8". The OP then says, "And then the manufacturer just looks at the chart [presumably in some tolerancing standard] to know the tolerances he should use."

As mentioned, there is no such standard. Y14.5 requires you to put tolerances either on the drawing or in a title block. There are no 'standard tolerances' that a machine shop can go to once given a dimension. They need to be on the face of the drawing in one form or another.
 
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Q I think you've missed the actual question. It was about geometric tolerances and if you can use a standard tolerance box, like you can with standard dimensions.

You can't really create standard geometric tolerances because they are datum dependent.
 

1. What are geometric tolerances?

Geometric tolerances are a set of standards and definitions used to specify the allowable variation in the form, size, and orientation of features on a part or component. They ensure that a product meets the required design and functional requirements.

2. Why are geometric tolerances important?

Geometric tolerances are important because they provide a precise and consistent way to define and communicate the allowable variation in a part's geometry. This helps to ensure that parts from different manufacturers can fit and function together correctly.

3. How are geometric tolerances measured?

Geometric tolerances are measured using specialized tools such as coordinate measuring machines (CMMs) and optical comparators. These tools use precise measurements and calculations to determine if a part falls within the specified tolerances.

4. What are some common geometric tolerances?

Common geometric tolerances include straightness, flatness, parallelism, perpendicularity, concentricity, and symmetry. These tolerances are often used to control the overall shape, orientation, and location of features on a part.

5. How are geometric tolerances specified?

Geometric tolerances are usually specified on engineering drawings using symbols and annotations according to international standards such as ASME Y14.5 or ISO 1101. These symbols and annotations indicate the type of tolerance, the tolerance value, and the feature or features to which the tolerance applies.

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