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Global smoking ban?

  1. Aug 11, 2008 #1
    What's the ETA on the global smoking ban? I'd like to know when we can get rid of smokers. Also, since we are on this topic, maybe the Gov. can place a 300% tax on cigarrette sales. Hell, I'll even go ahead and say smokers should be labeled terrorists since they terrorize my lungs and threaten my health.
     
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  3. Aug 11, 2008 #2

    russ_watters

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    Since there is no global government, I'd say it is going to be a while.
     
  4. Aug 11, 2008 #3
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    Welcome to UK.
     
  5. Aug 11, 2008 #4

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    Get rid of smoking? Or get rid of smokers?
     
  6. Aug 11, 2008 #5
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    We already have too many bans.

    We do need a way to break the tobacco addiction though.... That would help a lot.
     
  7. Aug 11, 2008 #6

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    :rofl: I caught that phrasing too. I'm visiting NYC right now, and I LOVE that smoking indoors is prohibited here. There's a little bar across the street that if it were in WV, I'd never go inside since it wouldn't be worth it to put up with the stench of cigarettes. Here, I could just kick back, relax, enjoy watching some Olympics on the TV, and sip a beer. (And Cyrus could have laughed at the guy who tried buying me a drink after no conversation beyond "How's the sandwich?" :rolleyes:) Even a "dive" bar seems classier when you're not hit with a fog of smoke as you walk in the door.

    There are still a lot of smokers around all the tourist attractions (gag), but otherwise, the only place I run into a lot of people smoking on the streets is along Wall St. All the well-dressed stock brokers who are probably going to heart attacks from the stress of their jobs before lung cancer can get to them are out puffing away on cigarettes.
     
  8. Aug 11, 2008 #7

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    They banned indoor smoking in all public buildings here a few years ago. I can't remember the last time I was out and someone was smoking. I love that there are no bogus "smoking" sections in a restaurant. If the table three feet away from you was in the "smoking" section, your "non-smoking" table was always in a cloud of smoke, making eating and breathing impossible. If a person can't refrain from smoking long enough to eat a meal, they have a serious problem.
     
  9. Aug 11, 2008 #8
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    They have banned smoking from all public buildings here, as well as from within 5 meters of any entrances. The latter part is hard to enforce, and tickets are rarely given for it.
     
  10. Aug 11, 2008 #9

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    I find this to be a very disgusting post. This is gross discrimination against a portion of the population suffering from a physical disability (http://www.apa.org/releases/smoke99.html [Broken]).

    Rather than labeling them as terrorists or suggesting their extermination, they should be treated with understanding and sympathy. Maybe we could have a telethon for them.
     
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  11. Aug 11, 2008 #10
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    Nah. Tax them to death.
     
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  12. Aug 11, 2008 #11

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    How can they make the leap from someone being less predisposed to "novelty seeking" to "genetic connection to cigarette smoking"?!?! :bugeye: I can't believe they actually had the nerve to publish that. Not to mention that in the study the group with the gene had fewer smokers, and if they asked, probably fewer people that poked sticks in their eyes, not that people with the gene smoked. :rolleyes: If they had posted that here, I would ban them for making an overly speculative post!

    :rofl:
     
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  13. Aug 11, 2008 #12

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    They are trying to ban smoking on the beaches here - on the grounds of air quality.
    This is one of the world's busiest ports with quese of container ships and tankers 100m offshore.

    They are also trying to ban clothes from the nudist beach - perhaps they should just cancel the free donuts at city council meetings, it would stop a lot of extra laws.
     
  14. Aug 11, 2008 #13

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    A smoking ban is probably coming soon in PA, but my two favorite bars have already gone smoke free.
     
  15. Aug 11, 2008 #14

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    :rofl: That puts a horrible image in my mind though, thinking about the people attending city council meetings for free donuts being the ones wanting to prohibit clothing at nude beaches. :uhh: Though, if you ban clothing, people won't have pockets to put their cigarettes and lighters into, so maybe it would stop them from smoking at the same time. :wink:
     
  16. Aug 12, 2008 #15

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    What is happening within the land of the free? Slowly transforming into a socialist state?:tongue2:
     
  17. Aug 12, 2008 #16
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    Smoking is just all the way around bad. I think it needs to be totally banned.
     
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    Why not ban alcohol while we're at it, and fast foods, etc... ? :rolleyes:
     
  20. Aug 12, 2008 #19
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    Well, that would work too. :biggrin:
     
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    But smoking related diseases only cost the health service £1.2B/year while tax on cigs raises about £11Bn - smoking is great because you die fairly quickly of untreatable lung cancer at the peak your earning age before collecting any pension.
    Drink isn't such a bargain, it costs £2-3Bn/year while only raising £8Bn (depends on how many 'she walked into a door' you count for drink)

    Smokers are national heroes, bravely sacrificing their lives to lower income tax for the rest of us - they should get a state funeral!
     
  23. Aug 12, 2008 #22
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    I think giving them a free cremation would be amusingly ironic.
     
  24. Aug 12, 2008 #23
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    I loved those statistics! :devil:

    I wonder if relaxing the rules would give larger profits ...
     
  25. Aug 13, 2008 #24
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    There are horrible car wrecks around here all the time. Daily I have to dodge getting side swiped and rearended by the idiots on the road. THREE times in the past few months I've had idiots nearly back their cars right into me while on the street! Maybe we should put a 300% tax on cars and gasoline. I see them as a much more likely detriment to my life and safety on a daily basis.
     
  26. Aug 13, 2008 #25

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    They only kill about 42,000/year.
    45% of accidental deaths in the USA involve cars but only 0.7% involve firearms so remember to clean your gun while driving!
     
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