Listening to the farewell speech, right now.
God, how I dislike that man.
Woo...now we just have to support his sorry *** till he dies.
Good riddance, W. What a sorry excuse for a human being.
It seems that all of the non-disasters of the last 8 years is being summed up in 30 minutes.
nope, it took only 13 minutes.
What the hell was that? Can anyone be more uninspiring if they tried? Did anyone actually believe that Iraq and Afghanistan are functioning democracies? Blarrrrrrrrrrghhhh!
Lance the boil! Get the pus out!
I thought it was a nice speech. I was listening to the radio, so I only had audio. He's come a long way and delivered it quite well.
He's not a total failure, he would make a good poster-child for birth control or abortion.
Is there a point to this? Or do people just want to spew hate?
It's so cold that even W did not blow a fuse.
After these 8 years, don't you think we should be allowed to vent a bit? Just a little, maybe?
The rest of us still alive can indeed get up and say "we never really needed you W".
Yes, hate is ok, as long as it's pointed in the right direction.
So, you don't think an emotional reaction toward those who govern us is justified. I'll remember that over the next 8 years .
Hurkyl aren't you from Canada? If yes, shut up, lol.
Not that emotional, no.
Please do. You'll never hear me talking that way about a President of the US.
Perhaps that how we ended up with someone like Bush - apathy.
I think the reason why we got him is because far too many people watch headline news, and don't seek good news. As a result, all they got was spoon fed 'they hate freedom' headlines. All they get is information at the surface.
At least this makes arguments like "well if Bush is not liked, then where are the complaining people?" more difficult to use.
In the US, there IS no "good" news unless you can find some relatively unbiased cable-carried sources, since all broadcast news is filtered through the same corporate structures that build and maintain the military-industrial complex. You either get propaganda (major networks) or out-and-out right-wing indoctrination (FOX), with little else available. Try watching broadcast-only channels for a couple of weeks, and see if you can resist tearing your hair out when comparing what you see to international sources on the Internet.
It seems even the revisionists don't have all that much stomach to defend this incompetent sidekick to special interests that has managed to mismanage and squander the burgeoning assets the nation was harvesting from increasing productivity at the outset of his term.
Cheney and Bush have been a total embarrassment with their manipulations and attempts to govern through deceit and distraction and all they have managed to do is bring unwise foreign adventure and economic ruin from unregulated greed that now sits on the shoulders of all those they were nominally supposed to shepherd.
Only 4 more days and that's been 8 years too long as it is as far as I'm concerned.
What I don't understand is how his approval rating is as high as 27%.
I would bet that this number could be correlated to Fox News viewers and hate radio listeners.
My uncle still thinks Saddam attacked NY. He also informed me last week that Obama will not be inagaurated because he's not a citizen. "You will see", he said confidently and with great patriotism.
Or perhaps the democrats put up a couple of crappy candidates those two elections (heck, Gore was in almost exactly the same position as McCain and lost for very similar reasons). Certainly a lack of excitement is a big part of why McCain didn't win, but lack of excitement doesn't equate to apathy, it is more likely to equate to rationality. When people get too excited, they stop thinking and that is a very dangerous thing. I would much prefer that people make rational decisions. Making decisions based on emotion leads to bad outcomes. People do what feels right instead of what is right. Heck, isn't that one of the main criticisms people have of Bush? That he went after Hussein for a family vendetta. That he let his emotions cloud his judgement due to his emotional dislike for the person. And that's exactly what this thread is about!
But I'm unusual - marketing rarely has a positive impact on my buying habits but often has a negative impact. I hear an annoying commercial and make a mental note not to buy the product being advertised. I want substance, not flash. Obama has proven to have flash: now he'll have to prove he has substance.
Your stance on Sarah Palin then?
Where was her beef?
Other than marketing, what was her purpose in the campaign?
I'm not a fan - I wanted Christy Whitman. Substance over flash. However, analyzing it objectively, I get why he did it: to try to attrack people like Ivan and others in this thread who want flash.
Let me be more specific:
I didn't like Clinton as President and certainly wouldn't want him as a friend. I think he's morally deficient. I would not describe him as a "sorry excuse for a human being", he's just flawed. A lot of people are flawed. If I ever met him, I'd be respectful, though - I get the feeling, many people here would relish the chance to spit in Bush's face. It's juvenile, not to mention self-defeating.
And though I didn't like him and that he had the distinction of being impeached, I wouldn't suggest he doesn't deserve his pension. That's just silly.
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