Goodbye from the Advanced Physics Forum - Antigravity Engine

[aviator]

i thought it was for physics discussion but nobody answers me how a swing works or why my antigravity engine fails


here I am not allowed either to discuss my idea:
http://www.advancedphysics.org/viewthread.php?tid=1496

internet censorship doesn't allow me to discuss my engine, besides most people will discuss about my person instead of about my ideas therefore ill have to do it the hard way and build it

so if in the future you hear the urban legend of a guy who built an antigravity device consisting of counterotatory cylinders with oscillating pistons inside and got killed because it lead as well to free energy you will know it was me

 

[<<<GUILLE>>>]

aviator,

I'm with you, I have posted many of my ideas in many forums but here it is impossible. people ussually get too hard with you, and the only place I have an aceptable state, it is in the philosophy one.

I like your antigravity device idea and other posts I ahve seen around in the link you gave up their.

 

[aviator]

besides i thought that people that keeps free energy secret had forgot about this forum but seems i was wrong and they put the right mods for their purposes, deep sceptics

why is it i can talk about my antigravity engine in game forums and i can't in physics forums because they get locked

 

[Kerrie]

well, like any private website, the admins have the power to censor. if you are so inventive, start your own website with your ideas, then no one can censor you.

 

[ZapperZ]

besides i thought that people that keeps free energy secret had forgot about this forum but seems i was wrong and they put the right mods for their purposes, deep sceptics

why is it i can talk about my antigravity engine in game forums and i can't in physics forums because they get locked

(i) Maybe because the people in the game forums are as ignorant about physics as you do. (ii) because when you start dealing with physics, then all the whole body of knowledge that is known to be valid APPLIES to whatever it is you're pushing (iii) because this forum was NOT meant for quackeries. Read the guidelines if you don't believe me.

So unless you are here to really flaunt the rules and show little respect for the main purpose of PF, then there's no reason why you should be surprised at the kind of reception you're getting. Besides, if you think it works, then BUILD the damn thing. Why are you revealing your "secrets" on here for the whole world to see? Go busy yourself with your "antigravity" and other machines rather than wasting your time on here.

... and don't let the door hit you on your rear end on your way out.

Zz.

 

[Danger]

i thought it was for physics discussion but nobody answers me how a swing works or why my antigravity engine fails

I thought that everyone knows how a swing works: you put a kid on it and push 'til he pukes.
As for the rest of it, I've taken the liberty of going back and looking at a couple of your posts. The whole problem here is that you have no bloody idea what you're talking about! Your posts are semi-coherent at best, and your lack of knowledge of even the fundamentals of science is appalling. That would be perfectly acceptable if you came here to learn, but it's obvious that you didn't. You came to propound the crackpot theories of a couple of guys who aren't even vaguely qualified to be called scientists. There is no such thing as free energy! There is no such thing as anti-gravity! Get over it!

 

[SpaceTiger]

Personally, I'm really grateful for the forum's level of censorship. I don't think such discussion should be stifled everywhere, but it's nice to have a set of forums in which you can be reasonably sure that people will be discussing real physics. I abandoned many of the other physics forums on the net simply because there were too many garbage posts involving people's erroneous personal theories.

 

[marlon]

i thought it was for physics discussion but nobody answers me how a swing works or why my antigravity engine fails

Oh no, are you one of them Podkletnov-aficionado's ?

marlon

ps : if i were you, i wouldn't mess with CIA/FBI/SWAT-man Danger...the guy has a 190º peripheral vision... BEWARE...especially when you are NOT in front of him

 

[Danger]

ps : if i were you, i wouldn't mess with CIA/FBI/SWAT-man Danger...the guy has a 190º peripheral vision... BEWARE...especially when you are NOT in front of him

That's right; I couldn't see a locomotive right in front of me, but it better not try sneaking up from behind.
Incidentally, those are Yank organizations. Up here its CSIS, RCMP and TAC teams.

 

[marlon]

That's right; I couldn't see a locomotive right in front of me, but it better not try sneaking up from behind.
Incidentally, those are Yank organizations. Up here its CSIS, RCMP and TAC teams.

dammit yes, i forgot you are Canadian...Sorry man...

marlon

 

[Danger]

dammit yes, i forgot you are Canadian...Sorry man...

No problem. I can never remember where someone is without looking, either. One of the perils of an international forum. Incidentally, as much as enjoy the goofing back and forth with you here, I must say how impressed I am with your post on 'Thin Film Interference' in GP. I don't understand most of it, but it sure is professional. You're the one this little bugger shouldn't mess with when it comes to science.
Okay, got to go to work now. Catch you tonight.

 

[marlon]

No problem. I can never remember where someone is without looking, either. One of the perils of an international forum. Incidentally, as much as enjoy the goofing back and forth with you here, I must say how impressed I am with your post on 'Thin Film Interference' in GP. I don't understand most of it, but it sure is professional. You're the one this little bugger shouldn't mess with when it comes to science.
Okay, got to go to work now. Catch you tonight.

Danger , i like you even more and more...Did you know that my girlfriend and i dream of living in Canada? Who knows, we might meet...I am sure you will recognize me first when i am not coming from right in front of you

marlon

 

[aviator]

space tiger I am glad you like censorship then you must be glad on the states

here in spain we don't like that stuff since to the 75 the salute was the fascist hand raised salute

as for there not being free energy or antigravity I am not sayin it certainly exists but danger you are saying radically it doesn't exist

who is the fanatic here?

obviously I am talking about moving the swing with your feet if you don't know how it works say it don't make jokes about it

besides if I am so very wrong wouldn't be easy to correct me instead of atacking me personally?

because i came here to learn by discussing, certainly nobody here is my master although some seem to believe to be a master teaching disciples

anyway i hope you are not like pithagoras who killed his disciple that discover the irational numbers, hey i might even get banned for this one about pithagoras

 

[marlon]

space tiger I am glad you like censorship then you must be glad on the states

Don't mess with SpaceTiger. I am the one to blame. I dictate what can be said and what cannot be said. SpaceTiger is too good an astrophysicist. he doesn't have the time to engage in such useless discussions as the one you have started here. I has far too much research to do...I don't...

hey i might even get banned for this one about pithagoras

First of all, it's Pythagoras
Secondly, where is your Theorem ?


Ohh, you don't have one ? Well, then don't compare yourself to somebody of that stature

marlon, the little one

 

[TensorKhan]

Personally, I'm really grateful for the forum's level of censorship. I don't think such discussion should be stifled everywhere, but it's nice to have a set of forums in which you can be reasonably sure that people will be discussing real physics. I abandoned many of the other physics forums on the net simply because there were too many garbage posts involving people's erroneous personal theories.

I agree. If this forum was not the way it was in maintaining a certain standard for posts, I would of left awhile ago.

As for you aviator, I would probably recommend that you humble yourself and try to actually learn some actual physics.

-TK

 

[aviator]

"Ohh, you don't have one ? Well, then don't compare yourself to somebody of that stature"

of course i don't compare with a murderer like pitagoras

why there int a section for sfringe science like mine?

what happens with john hutchinson reality?


should i humble in front of people that admires a murderer because he's got a great theoreme?
i was taught rightly not to do so

 

[marlon]

"Ohh, you don't have one ? Well, then don't compare yourself to somebody of that stature"

of course i don't compare with a murderer like pitagoras

why there int a section for sfringe science like mine?

what happens with john hutchinson reality?


should i humble in front of people that admires a murderer because he's got a great theoreme?
i was taught rightly not to do so

Learn your English. I can hardly understand what you are trying to say. Or do you only write ancient Greek ?

Are you saying that Pyhtagoras is a murderer ?

marlon

 

[franznietzsche]

"Ohh, you don't have one ? Well, then don't compare yourself to somebody of that stature"

of course i don't compare with a murderer like pitagoras

why there int a section for sfringe science like mine?

what happens with john hutchinson reality?


should i humble in front of people that admires a murderer because he's got a great theoreme?
i was taught rightly not to do so

There is a forum for your nuttery, its called Theory Development. Go there, and stay there.

 

[marlon]

There is a forum for your nuttery, its called Theory Development. Go there, and stay there.

and take pitagoras with you

 

[SpaceTiger]

Don't mess with SpaceTiger. I am the one to blame. I dictate what can be said and what cannot be said. SpaceTiger is too good an astrophysicist. he doesn't have the time to engage in such useless discussions as the one you have started here. I has far too much research to do...I don't...

I don't consider my time any more valuable than anyone else's, but I certainly would say that further arguing with this guy is a waste of it.

 

[aviator]

yes pithagoras killed his disciple who discover the irrational numbers

ive been taught so by my father who is a mathematician who wrote 14 books of investigation

in the theory development my ideas about hutchinson and antigravity get locked as well

for my two questions of how a swing works and what fails in my reactionless idea i didnt got a single clarification but a lot of personal attacks

thats why I am out of this forum besides i don't even have the chance to discuss my reactionless idea because only the idea that the burka is wrong seems to offend here

 

[Nereid]

as for there not being free energy or antigravity I am not sayin it certainly exists but danger you are saying radically it doesn't exist

aviator, I personally don't like it when a PF member decides to leave, and like to understand why they make such decisions.

In so far as your posts here reflect your interests and expectations, I'm curious as to why you haven't been able to
a) ask questions about the ideas you seem to have, in a way that avoids creating the impression that you are merely 'parroting crackpottery'
b) understand the content of the posts which folk here have made in response to your questions, to help you understand better the 'mainstream' theories (from which, I might add, were built the computer and internet that you are able to use to make your posts here in the first place)
c) distinguish between frustration at your apparent inability to grasp the basic concepts of classical physics (let alone QFT or GR) and some kind of political conspiracy
d) find another forum (than PF; 'forum' in the normal English sense) where your ideas can be discussed and debated (perhaps I didn't say this very well; what I mean is, why do/did you consider PF as a good place - potentially - to air your ideas and ask your questions?)

Wrt 'free energy' and 'anti-gravity', I think it's fair to say that most, if not almost all, PF members would be truly fascinated by either possibility! However, I suspect that a very large majority of those who would be interested would also examine any claim to either quite critically.

 

[aviator]

im mentally ill i have suffered two psicotic episodes though with medication i seem to do all right but this doesn't prove me wrong

i have deviced this antigravity engine 4 years ago and ever since i have tried to understand how it works

now i think i do so and i just thought the best place to discuss it was the most visited physics forum

looking for similar things i found about schauberger, clem, joseph newman, the disclosure project, Cowlishaw engine very similar to mine, nick cook reactionlees engine as well that seems to achieve ounces of thrust, as well as frolov ideas about gyroscopes of varying radius that produce reactionless thrust and this things have in common a spiral pattern

the problem is that i just don't find a place to discuss this with physicist that think like me or like all this people mentioned before

my intention is to help the world and most of what i get are attacks and not a single discusion of my ideas and besides my reactionless idea gets censored

if this is not the right place to discuss the reactionless properties of gyroscopes of varying radius i would thank anybody who point me to a place to discuss it because at this moment I am discussing it with positive answers in a planes game forum

this goes both to the people with good intention and to the people who dislike crackpots please point me to a place to discuss my ideas

 

[Nereid]

aviator,

I'm with you, I have posted many of my ideas in many forums but here it is impossible. people ussually get too hard with you, and the only place I have an aceptable state, it is in the philosophy one.

I like your antigravity device idea and other posts I ahve seen around in the link you gave up their.

Hello <<<GUILLE>>>,

I did a quick check on the posts you made here in PF, and I didn't find any by you in the main physics/astronomy sections (quite a few in Brain Teasers, some in Philosophy, some in GD).

Do you mind if I ask what sorts of things you have tried to post in Physics or Astronomy? In what way have you found that 'people ussually get too hard with you'?

 

[enigma]

if this is not the right place to discuss the reactionless properties of gyroscopes of varying radius i would thank anybody who point me to a place to discuss it because at this moment I am discussing it with positive answers in a planes game forum

http://www.sciforums.com

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.physics?hl=en

/wave

 

[Danger]

space tiger I am glad you like censorship then you must be glad on the states

It's not censorship in the political or moral sense of the word. It's quality control to make sure that people who are serious about learning, and might even need assistance in order to pass a critical course, are not given false information that could ruin their chances. (And incidentally, someone in your position who is contemplating an experiment of some sort could be killed if someone tells them the wrong way to prepare something, or fails to mention which chemicals need special handling.)

as for there not being free energy or antigravity I am not sayin it certainly exists but danger you are saying radically it doesn't exist

who is the fanatic here?

I'm not the one saying it; the science itself is. Have you ever heard of a little footnote in the history of science called 'thermodynamics'? There goes free energy. And even the experts don't know what gravity is. That's what the whole fields of quantum gravity and TOE are devoted to discovering. How can you possibly think that you can build a machine out of spit and baling wire that overcomes the single most prevalent force in the universe that isn't fully understood by the best minds on the planet? That's like when the New York Post wrote a snickering editorial calling the space program scientists baffoons because everyone knew that a rocket couldn't work in space where there was no air for it to push against.

obviously I am talking about moving the swing with your feet if you don't know how it works say it don't make jokes about it

besides if I am so very wrong wouldn't be easy to correct me instead of atacking me personally?

Several people tried very patiently to understand your exact questions and provide answers from exceedingly simple right through to complex equations. You ignored them.

Did you know that my girlfriend and i dream of living in Canada? Who knows, we might meet...

You're more than welcome here, for sure, but you might want to think twice about introducing her to me. I've seen her picture, remember. In fact, I cropped you out of it and am using it as my desktop.

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

I certainly would say that further arguing with this guy is a waste of it.

Absolutely, let's move on. How about this for censorship!