Got the theorem, having trouble with the proof

In summary, the person is trying to prove a theorem that they have been using as-is, and is stuck near the end. They say that they are almost done, but are stuck on the last part. The theorem is that if a smooth vector field X is on a manifold M, then there exists a coordinate neighborhood around point p such that X points in the same direction as one of the tangent space basis vectors. If X does not lie in the tangent space, then X is not a smooth vector field at point p.
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sambo
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Got the theorem, having trouble with the proof... [SOLVED]

Hi all. OK, so I am trying to prove a theorem that I have for some time been just using as-is. Long story short, it occurred to me that I needed to prove it. So, I have almost done it, but am stuck near the end. The theorem is:

Suppose [itex] \mathcal{X} [/itex] is a smooth vector field on a manifold [itex]\mathcal{M}[/itex]. Assuming that [itex]\mathcal{X}_p\neq0[/itex] at a point [itex]p\in\mathcal{M}[/itex], then there exists a coordinate neighborhood [itex]\left(\mathcal{W};w^i\right)[/itex] about [itex]p[/itex] such that
[tex]
\left.\mathcal{X}\right\vert_\mathcal{W}=\dfrac{\partial}{\partial w^1}
[/tex]

Proof: ?

Now, it's not that I have nothing for the proof, it's just that I'm stuck. As well, since there is more than one way to skin a cat, I figured it would be better to leave the proof empty, rather than potentially confuse anyone with the technique I have employed thus far.

That said, a big thanks in advance for all the help!
 
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lets see if it can be contradicted.

what the proof asks, is whether there we can setup a coordinate system around the point [itex]\displaystyle p[/itex] s.t. the vector [itex]\displaystyle X_p[/itex] points in the same direction as one of our tangent space basis vectors [tex]\frac{\partial}{\partial w}[/tex]

Well, let's assume that we cannot orient our coordinate system s.t. [tex]X_p = \frac{\partial}{\partial w}[/tex]. Then this says that either [itex]X_p = 0[/itex] (which you have already told us is not allowed) or [itex]X_p[/itex] does not lie in the tangent space [tex]M_p[/tex].

If it does not lie in the tangent space, then [tex]X[/tex] is not a smooth vector field at the point [tex]p[/tex], a contradiction.
 
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he want's it at every point nearby. not just one, so it is probably the existence theorem for differential equations i guess.
 
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mathwonk said:
he want's it at every point nearby. not just one, so it is probably the existence theorem for differential equations i guess.


Yeah, I have had to invoke the existence and uniqueness of solutions of ODE's for this one so far...
 
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I have the proof in a book of mine, it has as a necessary and sufficient condition for 2 linearally independant vector fields to be a coordinate basis, on a 2 dimensional manifold, that the Lie bracket vanishes (i.e. they commute). Can't be bothered to write out the proof but you can find it in the section titled "when is a basis a coordinate basis?" in chapter 2 of "Geometrical Methods for Mathematical Physics"-B. Schutz. The proof obviously can be extended to higher dimensions.
 
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OK, I think I got it. The indexing terms were giving me the businsess, but it seems to be all good now. Submitted for your approval:

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