Solving for Isomorphic Subgroups: F/K and the Additive Group of Functions

In summary, the conversation discusses finding a subgroup of the additive group of functions mapping R into R, to which the quotient group of F/K is isomorphic. The solution involves using the fundamental homomorphism theorem and picking a representative function for each coset in order to form a subgroup. A possible solution is to pick a function that is 0 at a specific value, such as 0 at 0 or 0 at 2.
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Homework Statement


Let F be the additive group of all functions mapping R into R. Let K be the subgroup of F consisting of the constant functions. Find a subgroup of F to which F/K is isomorphic.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I have absolutely no idea how to do this. Am I supposed to use the fundamental homomorphism theorem? Is it the set of all functions such that f(0)=0? How in the world would you prove that?
 
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The cosets of the quotient group are {f(x)+C} where C varies over the elements of K (konstants) for a given f(x). Pick a representative of each coset in such a way as to form a group. Picking an f(x) such that f(0)=0 works great. So does picking an f(x) such that f(2)=0. You don't need any big theorems. You just need to understand the problem.
 
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Here is how you would use the Fundamental Homomorphism Theorem:

Define phi from F to F by phi(f(x)) = f(x)-f(0). It is clear that the kernel of this function is going to be all of the constant functions. It is also clear that the image of this function will hit all the members of F that are 0 at 0. Then the FHT tells us that F/ker(phi) is isomorphic to phi(F) and we are done.
 
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For somebody that had "absolutely no idea how to do this", that's really well done. Keep it up! Note f(x)-f(2) for works for phi as well. I kinda like 2.
 

1. What is an isomorphic subgroup?

An isomorphic subgroup is a subset of a larger group that shares the same structure and properties as the larger group. This means that the subgroup has the same number of elements and follows the same operation rules as the larger group.

2. How do you solve for isomorphic subgroups?

To solve for isomorphic subgroups, you need to first find the normal subgroup (F/K) and the additive group of functions. Then, you can use the isomorphism theorem to determine if the two groups are isomorphic. If they are, you can use the properties of isomorphic groups to solve for the isomorphic subgroup.

3. What is the isomorphism theorem?

The isomorphism theorem states that if two groups are isomorphic, then their corresponding subgroups are also isomorphic. This means that if the operation and structure of two groups are the same, then the operation and structure of their subgroups will also be the same.

4. What is the significance of finding isomorphic subgroups?

Finding isomorphic subgroups can help in understanding the structure and properties of a larger group. It can also make solving for certain problems or equations easier, as the properties of isomorphic groups can be used to simplify calculations.

5. Can a subgroup be isomorphic to a larger group?

No, a subgroup cannot be isomorphic to a larger group. Isomorphism implies that the two groups have the same structure and properties, but a subgroup is by definition a subset of a larger group and will therefore have fewer elements and different properties.

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