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Hard water

  1. Aug 30, 2010 #1

    wolram

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    I live in an area where the water supply has a very high amount of lime, what if any thing doe's this do to ones insides.
     
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  3. Aug 30, 2010 #2
    Hi wolram,

    No recommandations, it seems

    It's an old study but:

    But I could imagine complications in other areas.
     
  4. Aug 30, 2010 #3

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    Get your self one of those water filter you place on your countertop.
     
  5. Aug 30, 2010 #4
    Yeah, I dunno - fortifies your bones?

    Tell you what - Google this and you'll find wildly conflicting stories of both the health "benefits" and "harms" of distilled water.

    Take a walk on the evolutionary wild side, however, and you'll find that nearly all of us (the ones who lived to reproduce, anyway) simply drank the water that was in the wild.

    Talk to me again after you have grandkids. :)
     
  6. Aug 30, 2010 #5

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    Distilled water is known to be bad for exclusive human consumption. Filtered water is healthy.
     
  7. Aug 31, 2010 #6
    i think it's probably a function of the magnesium. hard water is often a great source of Mg.

    not sure what you mean unless it's prostate complications in men from too much calcium.


    i hope by filtered you mean activated charcoal. this will typically remove lead and organic contaminants while leaving the Ca and Mg. but you have to change the filter on a regular schedule.
     
  8. Aug 31, 2010 #7
    I had this problem and refused to drink it. The fact that after two days it would create a green film in my bathtub convinced me that it could not be good for the internal pipes.

    The real problem is that destroys your plumbing and water appliances. We lived in an old farmhouse that we rented, and the landlord would not put out the money to get rid of the copper pipes. It slowly ate them and leaks would pop up. And it destroyed the dishwasher and water heater. Even destroyed the water pump.

    A water filer on your sink will not do it. You need to get a water softener on the whole system.
     
  9. Aug 31, 2010 #8

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    The best way to deal with hard water is to simply thaw it before you use it.
     
  10. Aug 31, 2010 #9

    Evo

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    I believe he's renting, that's not an option.
     
  11. Aug 31, 2010 #10

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    LOL, there has to be one i guess :tongue2:

    Seems like there is a split of opinion, short time i will go with Evo, but my parents swear by an electrical gizmo that fits to the inlet pipe, its just a little box with two wires, one at either end, a wire that goes clockwise and the other wire goes counter clockwise around the pipe.
     
  12. Aug 31, 2010 #11

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    Sounds like one of those magnet scams.

    http://www.chem1.com/CQ/magscams.html

    When you buy a sink filter, make sure it's a multi-stage filtration unit, with an RO chamber (need this for the hardness) and a carbon filter. These usually cost in the ballpark of $100 (in the US) for a small counter-top unit.
     
  13. Aug 31, 2010 #12

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  15. Aug 31, 2010 #14

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    That paper addresses the effectiveness of a magneto-hydrodynamic system on silicaceous scale formation in industrial heat exchanges, and does NOT evaluate magnetic softening of hard water. They only study the quality of the pipes, not the quality of the water. Heck, if your plumbing is cleaner, the water is probably dirtier! For industrial applications like boilers and heat exchangers, the important issue is scale formation, not water quality.

    Clearly, water softening requires a chemical reaction to exchange the bad Group II cations with less bad ones, and there is no obvious mechanism for that in a magnetic water cleaner.
     
  16. Aug 31, 2010 #15

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    Sure. I see I wasn't clear. I never stated magnets can soften the water, all I wanted to point out was that not every magnet used on water pipe must be a scam :smile:
     
  17. Aug 31, 2010 #16
    Bladder stones.

    I lived in an area with calcium/lime in the water, and one of my roommates at the time (she was only 19) got bladder stones as a result of drinking a lot of the tap water. If you eat more citrus or take in more vitamin C, it might help to acidify your system. (This and drinking less water, was recommended.)
     
  18. Aug 31, 2010 #17
    Activated charcoal filters (britta, pur, etc...) are more than sufficient for mineral filtration, as has already been stated.
     
  19. Aug 31, 2010 #18
    incorrect. eat meat for metabolic acidity. veggies and fruit for alkalinity. but i don't think you'll get much effect on stones, either way.

    other than some heavy metals like lead, this is incorrect. charcoal will leave most of the hardness intact. if you want to remove the hardness, then use ion exchange resins, or reverse osmosis. but remember that R.O. is nearly as devoid of ions as distilled. some multistage units with resin+R.O. maybe more so.
     
  20. Aug 31, 2010 #19
    yeah we have hard water here and I use a brita filter... but it gives off bits and I end up drinking these... might not be very good either...
    but after filtering you get less brown 'film' on top of your tea.. if anyone gets that...
     
  21. Aug 31, 2010 #20
    That's definitely no fun at all. If you soak the filter for about 15 minutes in tap water, drain it, and re-soak, you may find that you don't get charcoal specks. As an aside, I used a Pur for a long time and never got any....

    On the bright side, activated charcoal isn't going to hurt you.
     
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