He atoms move faster than all of the Ne atoms

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In summary, the misconception that all He atoms move faster than all Ne atoms in a mixture of the two gases at equilibrium is false. While on average, the He atoms may have higher velocities, the chaotic nature of the mixture allows for individual Ne atoms to have faster velocities at a given instant. This is due to the distribution of velocities according to Maxwell's distribution. Additionally, the process of achieving equilibrium involves the transfer of kinetic energy between atoms with higher and lower velocities, resulting in a distribution of kinetic energy among all atoms in the system.
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In a mixture of Ne and He at equilibrium, all of the He atoms move faster than all of the Ne atoms.

Why is this false?

Shouldn't it be true, since Ne atom is heavier than He atom. Thanks for any help
 
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Well maybe the problem is with the term "all". Sure, on average the He atoms are faster, but given the very chaotic nature of the mixture, it is very possible, that at a given instant, one or more atom of Ne goes faster than any of the He atoms.
 
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The molecules of a gas move in all possible speeds in all possible directions. Thus the gas contains molecules with very low velocities to very high velocities (Maxwell's distribution). When we think of the relation between temperature and velocity (or KE) this is rms velocity of the molecules
 
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Exactly.

This has to do with chemical kinetics,
Thnk of what happens when you put a hot object against a cold object. Heat transfers into the colder object until an equilibrium is achieved.

Its basically the same thing.
Atoms with higher kinetic energy (faster movement,) will distribute energy to atoms with lower kinetic energy in the same system, until an equilibrium of kinetic energy is achieved.
Ie, the faster moving atoms will collide with slower moving atoms, transferring some of the kinetic energy, until each atom in the system has the same amount of kinetic energy.

This action is spontanious.
 
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Ahh, I see, thank you very much for your help guys.
 

1. What is the reason behind He atoms moving faster than all of the Ne atoms?

The reason for this is due to the difference in mass between the two atoms. He atoms have a smaller mass compared to Ne atoms, making them move faster at the same temperature.

2. Does this mean that He atoms have a higher kinetic energy than Ne atoms?

Yes, since kinetic energy is directly proportional to the mass and velocity of an object, He atoms will have a higher kinetic energy compared to Ne atoms at the same temperature.

3. How does the speed of He atoms affect the overall behavior of a gas mixture?

The faster movement of He atoms can lead to a higher average velocity and a higher pressure within the gas mixture. It can also affect the diffusion rate and the thermal conductivity of the mixture.

4. Are there any other factors that can influence the speed of He and Ne atoms?

Yes, temperature and pressure can also affect the speed of atoms in a gas mixture. Higher temperatures will result in faster movement of all atoms, while higher pressures can cause atoms to collide more frequently and increase their speed.

5. Can the speed of He and Ne atoms be equalized in any way?

Yes, by adjusting the temperature and pressure of the gas mixture, the speed of He and Ne atoms can be equalized. This can be achieved through gas diffusion or using a gas chromatograph to separate the atoms based on their speed.

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