Heat of a bic lighter? A medium to lower it's heat?

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The discussion revolves around the temperature characteristics of a Bic lighter when used continuously, as well as the exploration of materials that could diffuse heat effectively to a specified range. Participants are examining the potential risks associated with using a lighter in conjunction with different materials and discussing methods to achieve low-temperature combustion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the temperature of a Bic lighter after being lit for 5 seconds and for a minute, expressing uncertainty due to varying information found in research.
  • The same participant asks how much the temperatures might vary on average and seeks a material that can diffuse heat to a range of 400 to 500 degrees Fahrenheit.
  • Another participant warns against the dangers of using a lighter, sharing anecdotal evidence of a potentially hazardous incident involving a lighter and questioning the reliability of urban legends surrounding such events.
  • This participant also reflects on their own experience of throwing a Bic lighter into a fire pit, describing the outcome as a small pop followed by a jet of fire, suggesting a relatively safe behavior under controlled conditions.
  • A later reply suggests using a catalyst-impregnated handwarmer wick as a means to achieve low-temperature combustion with butane, mentioning its composition and potential effectiveness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of concern regarding the safety of using a lighter with different materials, with some emphasizing caution while others suggest it may be safe under certain conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific temperatures and the effectiveness of proposed materials.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the lack of empirical data on the temperatures of a Bic lighter and the effectiveness of materials suggested for heat diffusion. Additionally, the anecdotal nature of safety concerns introduces uncertainty about the risks involved.

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1.I know this is a weird question, but does anyone know what the temperature of a bic lighter is after around 5 seconds? If left on for a minute? In my research I have come across so many different answers and was hoping to get a more concrete answer. Once I have the needed testing apparatus I will test myself, but was hoping someone might have a ball park idea.

2.How much do these temperatures vary on average?


3.What would be a good material to diffuse this heat to around 400 to 500 degrees F? I was hoping to make a small (within 1"x1"x1")plate or cup shape that could diffuse this heat to 400F-500F range. Is this possible? I have been looking at materials that are poor conductors of heat, but what I really want is a material that heats up quickly and evenly, but lowers the temperature as desired? Does such a material exist?

Thanks.
 
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I would seriously recommend that you don't play around with that stuff. There are facts, and there are urban legends, and all of them caution against flicking your Bic the wrong way. An item in Hot Rod (or Car Craft; I can't remember which) back in the 70's mentioned a guy had his leg blown off because he was welding and a spark infiltrated the Bic in his pocket. I do not personally believe that as reported (especially since they said that one Bic was equivalent to 6 sticks of dynamite; I mean, what kind? 60% Forcite? 40% Forcite? Really, now...) I did personally toss a Bic into a fire pit several years ago, and we all stood very far away to see what happened. It actually just cooked off the same way that a firearms cartridge would have. There was a tiny "pop", then a small jet of fire as the butane burned away.
 
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I would seriously recommend that you don't play around with that stuff. There are facts, and there are urban legends, and all of them caution against flicking your Bic the wrong way. An item in Hot Rod (or Car Craft; I can't remember which) back in the 70's mentioned a guy had his leg blown off because he was welding and a spark infiltrated the Bic in his pocket. I do not personally believe that as reported (especially since they said that one Bic was equivalent to 6 sticks of dynamite; I mean, what kind? 60% Forcite? 40% Forcite? Really, now...) I did personally toss a Bic into a fire pit several years ago, and we all stood very far away to see what happened. It actually just cooked off the same way that a firearms cartridge would have. There was a tiny "pop", then a small jet of fire as the butane burned away.

Do you really think putting a lighter under some type of medium will be dangerous? I imagine bics are fairly safe devices nowadays, but I will definitely be cautious if I proceed. Thanks.

Does anyone know of what type of material would be best for what I am attempting to do?
 
You want a low temperature combustion. Try using the catalyst-impregnated handwarmer wick. It is designed to work with volatilized lighter fluid but it should also work with butane. I believe it to be an alumina fabric impregnated with something like palladium or platinum. The Zippo company refers to it as the "catalytic burner".
 

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