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Heisenberg's lost notes?

  1. Aug 22, 2012 #1
    i was reading a Murray Gell Mann interview and he mentioned that Heisenberg became a crank in his later years.

    I've tried very hard but I cannot find what Heisenberg was working on. My motivation is, there may be some bits of genius among that pile of crackpottery.
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  3. Aug 22, 2012 #2


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    I guess Gell-Mann is referring to Heisenberg's non-linear Dirac equation. From the fact that nobody talks about this nowadays anymore, you can reach your own conclusions ;-). You find a review by Heisenberg himself in

    W. Heisenberg, Rev. Mod. Phys. 29, 269 (1957)
  4. Aug 22, 2012 #3
    Well, what's the key problem in his theory?

    Also, I'm currently broke, so I can't read the review.
  5. Aug 23, 2012 #4
    Thanks for the reference!
    It looks however as if you call a number of people "nobody":

    "96 citing articles found:

    Nonlinear Spinor Fields and Its Role in Cosmology
    Bijan Saha
    International Journal of Theoretical Physics , (2012)

    Matter-gravity couplings and Lorentz violation
    V. Alan Kostelecký and Jay D. Tasson
    Phys. Rev. D 83, 016013 (2011)

    Four-fermion interaction from torsion as dark energy
    Nikodem J. Popławski
    General Relativity and Gravitation , (2011)

    Reproducing gravity through spinor fields
    M. Novello, M. Borba
    Gravitation and Cosmology 17, 224 (2011)

    Lorentz violation with an antisymmetric tensor
    Brett Altschul, Quentin G. Bailey, and V. Alan Kostelecký
    Phys. Rev. D 81, 065028 (2010)

    Approximate gauge symmetry of composite vector bosons
    Mahiko Suzuki
    Phys. Rev. D 82, 045026 (2010)

    Derivation of Nonlinear Schrödinger Equation
    Xiang-Yao Wu, Bai-Jun Zhang, Xiao-Jing Liu, Li Xiao, Yi-Heng Wu, Yan Wang, Qing-Cai Wang, Shuang Cheng
    International Journal of Theoretical Physics , (2010)


    Constructing Dirac linear fermions in terms of non-linear Heisenberg spinors
    M. Novello
    EPL (Europhysics Letters) 80, 41001 (2007) "
  6. Aug 23, 2012 #5
    I have read that H was working with Wolfgang Pauli on something ambitious in their later years. Pauli was quite excited about it. P went to the USA and presented the theory but could not answer the objections. P gave up on it and seems to have been quite embarrassed by the whole thing, as he prided himself on having "never believed in anything that was wrong." P gave up research after that.
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