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News Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany & Poland!

  1. Jun 5, 2010 #1

    arildno

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    The veteran in the White Housepress corps in the USA, Helen Thomas, makes her own ideas about Jews quite clear in this little gem:


    That the majority of the Jews of the Israelis, descend from those who were driven out/fled from Arab lands post-48 (after thousands of years of living there), doesn't concern this icon of the liberal left one bit..
     
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  3. Jun 5, 2010 #2

    chemisttree

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    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    So how long do you think it will be before she 'retires'?
     
  4. Jun 5, 2010 #3

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    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    Thomas was a slime ball even before she went around the bend.
     
  5. Jun 5, 2010 #4

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    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    She'll ooze around for the next decade or so, her appearance being more and more similar to the Wicked Witch in "The Wizard of Oz"
     
  6. Jun 5, 2010 #5
    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    What the hell was she thinking when she made that statement?
     
  7. Jun 5, 2010 #6

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    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    Yeah, she reflects "badly" on the leftie movement, doesn't she?

    Although she was just candid about her real views, shared by many political friends of hers..

    Dreadfully embarassing to have such clumsy individuals on the "right side of morality", isn't it?
     
  8. Jun 5, 2010 #7
    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    Why does she care where they live? They could just as easily tell her to go home, whatever random location it is they choose as her "home".
     
  9. Jun 5, 2010 #8
    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    Arildno, you and I both know that Israel relies on immigration of Jews into the country to maintain its population, and hence its power. Otherwise, they run the risk of loosing power to the Arabs based solely on demographics. So, what she said isn't false.

    I am also not so sure why you keep saying the "lefties" and the "leftists". FYI, the "righ-ists" (is that even a word?) support Israel mainly because they are bible loving Christians, and anti-gay anti evolutionists (for the most part). So you're not really backing a 'winning' horse by siding with the right either.
     
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  10. Jun 5, 2010 #9

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    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    Especially considering that he doesn't even live here!

    I seriously doubt that she meant what it sounded like. Anyone making the leap that this was intended to reference the holocaust, is just fishing for whales in a fishbowl. This is silly.
     
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  11. Jun 5, 2010 #10
    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    I read her bio on wiki, I guess her parents were immigrants from Lebanon. I disagree with her about Israel, but Fascist doesn't seam to be an appropriate word.
     
  12. Jun 5, 2010 #11

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    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    Since she is a wilfully ignorant woman, she is undeserving of any better characteristic.
    The majority of Israel's present day inhabitants are Sephardic Jews, not those from Poland and Germany.

    Those were, for the most part, exterminated, the major Ashkenazi population groups came from USA, Britain, France and Eastern Europe.
     
  13. Jun 5, 2010 #12

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    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    Even the most bigoted American mid-West village in the 1950s provided for a better life for gays than any Islamic country.

    Unless you are interested in small boys, when a job at the local madrasa will suit you nicely.
     
  14. Jun 5, 2010 #13

    arildno

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    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    This is just laughable.

    Tribalist thinking precludes people from treating The Other systematically BETTER than One's Own. Sad, but true.

    Thus, in order to find out what the one party has in store for the other party, the maximum they'll likely to give is no better than the treatment of their own indigenous population.

    Thus, you should compare how Israel treats its own citizens relative to how Hamas (or any other Islamic regime) treats their own, and choose your allies accordingly.

    Condemning your chosen ally for war crimes when those happen should never, ever, make you switch allegiance&support for the other side's nightmare regime.
     
  15. Jun 5, 2010 #14
    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    Reading about it on Wiki, I came up with contradictory information. I'm not disputing your point, but wiki says that about 80% of all jews in the world today are Ashkenazi, and that Ashkenazi jews make up the largest group of jews in Israel as well.

    My great, great, great, grandfather was a Ashkenazi jew, his son, immigrated to the U.S. just before world war 1.

    "Today, Ashkenazi Jews constitute the largest group among Jews,[5] and among Israeli Jews as well."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
     
  16. Jun 5, 2010 #15

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    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    I am glad you source your claim, so I must do likewise! :smile:

    The sub-population of the Sephardim with direct Middle Eastern/North African descent is called the Mizrahi Jews.

    According a 2009 census, the Israeli Jews of Mizrahi extraction is 3.1 million, which is 41.3% of Israel's total population, and 52-54% av the total Jewish population in Israel:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews

    That's where I got my information from, it is easy to get lost in mutually contradictory data...:frown:
     
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  17. Jun 6, 2010 #16
    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    I don't know, I certainly don't identify "liberals" as left. Liberal, in my world, certainly means that you're on the right part of the spectrum. I'm more towards the socialist left.

    Yes, you can shiver now. No, I don't support the actions of Stalin or Mao Zedong.
     
  18. Jun 6, 2010 #17

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    Thomas is suffering from senile dementia and well into it. Fascism is not about anti-Semitism though it accommodates it quite nicely; anti-Semitism was a horrific but incidental aspect of fascism in Nazi Germany, not seen, for instance, in Mussolini's Italy.
     
  19. Jun 6, 2010 #18
    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    "Fascism" is a broad and often misused term. For instance, before World War II, many, many people admired Mussolini's Italy; Not only Hitler but Churchill, and Gandhi (who said something akin to "I wish I was a superman like Mussolini").

    Of course, war crimes tend to undermine one's reputation and since then fascism is pretty much a pejorative term.

    I can't really comment on Mussolini myself since I'm not terribly familiar with the topic.
     
  20. Jun 6, 2010 #19

    arildno

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    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    Certainly.

    Most oftenly today, it is, along with "racism", abused&savoured by leftists to characterize their opponents, as well as smearing USA and Israel with those terms.

    If you are Swedish, you should be very well acquainted by the despicable, systematic use of those terms onto the party SD.
     
  21. Jun 6, 2010 #20
    Re: Fascist Helen Thomas to Jews: Get home to Germany&Poland!

    Oh, gee.

    SD is a dumb party which promotes discrimination against homosexuals, women and immigrants, they're plain old conservative racists in nice suits.

    That said, AFA (Antifascist Action) and the like are equally dumb, and probably cause more short-term trouble than any fascists or nazis we may have in Sweden. They give the left a bad reputation.
     
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