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Help in meaning of curl

  1. Mar 27, 2009 #1
    Hello All ..
    How are you ? I hope you fine

    Our professor taught as about the meaning of curl , but I was totally confused about it , especially when he used Taylor expansion of two variables and line integrals

    It’s like this

    Sorry for the very bad diagram in attachments , where delta means ∆
    ∮▒(V.) ⃗ dλ ⃗
    = ∮▒〖(Vxdx+Vydy)〗
    Where Vy and Vx are velocity vector component
    Then he expanded Vx and Vy about p
    Vx = Vx(p) + ∂Vx/∂x(p) (x-xo)+ ∂Vy/∂y(p) (y-yo)
    Vx = Vx(p) + ∂Vx/∂x(p) (x-xo)+ ∂Vy/∂y(p) (y-yo)

    I want hinge explanation please about the above point ..
    Then he asked us to evaluate the line integral for
    ∮▒(Vxdx+Vydy)
    ( By the expanded bionomials ) , the linear integral is from A TO B then form B TO C the from C TO D
    He said the result should be
    (∂Vy/∂y- ∂Vx/∂x)∆x∆y= Curl (V ⃗ )z
    But HOW
    Please .. I want aalso a hinge explanation for this .. and thanks
     

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  3. Mar 27, 2009 #2

    tiny-tim

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    Welcome to PF!

    Hello A New Learner! Welcome to PF! :smile:
    I'm very well, thankyou. :wink:
    No, they should be …

    Vx = Vx(p) + ∂Vx/∂x(p) (x-xo)+ ∂Vx/∂y(p) (y-yo)
    Vy = Vy(p) + ∂Vy/∂x(p) (x-xo)+ ∂Vy/∂y(p) (y-yo)

    (and although you can use Taylor's theorem to get these, you don't need to … they follow directly from the definition of the derivative of a function)

    (∂Vy/∂x- ∂Vx/∂y)∆x∆y= Curl (V ⃗ )z :smile:
     
  4. Mar 28, 2009 #3
    tiny-tim

    thank you so much for your help .. and i'm sorry for the wrong writing of the equation ..
    but i'm still wondering how to evaluate these linear integerals

    Best Wishes ..
     
  5. Mar 28, 2009 #4

    tiny-tim

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    Hi A New Learner! :smile:

    To start you off:

    you're going round all four sides of that rectangle …

    so the first side will be from xo, yo to xo + ∆x, yo …

    so integrate Vxdx + Yydy along that, ignoring any terms with more than two derivatives, and then the same along the other three sides. :wink:
     
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