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Help me help my diet!

  1. Jan 17, 2010 #1
    I have a soda drinking problem. Basically, all I want to do is a find a healthier thing to drink. Due to lack of sleep and exercise i feel like i might be losing mental clarity, so perhaps something thats sort of a "Brain drink"? Anything good? green tea maybe?
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  3. Jan 17, 2010 #2


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    You cannot use a drink to compensate for poor sleep and exercise habits. At least, not in the long term.

    Get better sleep and exercise. Your body will thank you with many decades of health.
  4. Jan 17, 2010 #3
    So how about a better drink in general? To replace soda with?
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    Unsweetened iced tea. Learn to love it!
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    Tea, the best are the full-leave varieties. Websites like this: http://www.adagio.com/ make me happy :smile:

    Soda is not only bad because of its sugar, but also because of its acids: you will destroy your body and your teeth by drinking it everyday.
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    If you are drinking sweet fizzy drinks and finding that a short time later you are feeling thirsty again have a diabetes check.
  9. Jan 17, 2010 #8
    Red Bull and Vodka - keeps me alert for hours on end.
  10. Jan 17, 2010 #9
    'Brain drink'.

    Water frankly, not very interesting but the only thing your body cares about is being hydrated. (Mostly anyway)

    I really should follow my own advice though as i'm massively addicted to caffeine, I suspect this is what is causing the feeling of losing the mental edge. Also Dave is right in that a good nights sleep and excercise also clear the mind pretty well.

    Shame that finding the time, especially for sleep is so hard. The day needs to be a good 4 hours longer.
  11. Jan 17, 2010 #10
    I went in the chinese shop and got some green tea that swells up when you add hot water - you can get 3 or 4 large cups with one spoonful - just keep topping it up with hot water. Also there's a ginseng drink like a sugar cube that dissolves.
  12. Jan 17, 2010 #11
    Whats wrong with just plain old water?
  13. Jan 17, 2010 #12
    I had to cut down on my alcohol intake and I found Schloer,a grape juice.I drink it diluted and it makes a good alternative to wine and possibly to soda.Give it a try.
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    Tea and coffee will still give you the caffeine while you control the amount of sugar. Not exactly healthy, but often it's more the caffeine you'll miss than the sugar if you just switch to water.

    The other thing I'll do to cut back on soda (not eliminate it) is to mix club soda or tonic water half and half with a fruit juice. Now, fruit juices can be just as sugary, so not really a diet drink, but at least if you choose carefully, they have vitamins too. I don't usually like plain fruit juice because it tastes TOO sweet to me, but mixing it with something bitter like tonic water seems to satisfy my taste for bubbles.

    I would drink more water if I could get water that wasn't chillled! I can't stand drinking ice cold water. At home, it's not a problem, I can just get it tepid from the tap and am happy, but at work, the tap water tastes odd and they do have a water dispenser in the soda machine, but it's ice cold, and all the bottled water is chilled, and the water fountains are refrigerated. Bleck! Even my boyfriend keeps his water in the fridge (his tap water is sometimes rusty, so he filters it and puts the whole container in the fridge). I end up pouring a full glass when I'm not thirsty just so I can let it sit out on the counter to drink later when it's room temperature (and he got yelled at when he walked in and drank MY glass of water and didn't understand why I was upset when there was plenty more water in the fridge :grumpy:).
  15. Jan 17, 2010 #14
    put a saucer of milk on the floor. get into pushup position above the saucer. lower your face to the saucer, take a sip of milk, and push up. when you finish a saucer, that is one set. do enough sets to finish one quart of milk in a day (low fat if you like). as you become more advanced, use bigger saucers.

    run one mile. drink a cup of milk. repeat as needed.

    do squats or deadlifts. drink a pint of milk.

    etc. be creative, make your own variations on the theme.
  16. Jan 17, 2010 #15
    What a completely [STRIKE]ridiculous[/STRIKE] edit: curious idea. Why not just do full workout THEN drink the milk?

    Why milk btw? Possibly the most sickly drink on the planet.
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    This should be obvious.

    To make a game out of it., So it's not such a grind.

    Why milk btw? Possibly the most sickly drink on the planet.[/QUOTE]
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    This should be obvious. To make a game out of it. So it's not such a grind.
  19. Jan 17, 2010 #18
    It's just milk seems a very odd choice as a motivational incentive. Granted im biased in that I find milk to be a vomit inducing drink even when completely stationary. I just find that during excercise cool (not cold) water is by far the best thing.

    What im trying to ask is, is there any denefit to driking milk befor/during/after excercise over water?
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    I just LOVE milk. But, I think the joke was more like putting down a saucer of milk for a cat than a serious suggestion (or maybe you already knew that and I just missed that you were joking back...humor seems to be backfiring all over the place today).
  21. Jan 17, 2010 #20
    actually, i'm not making a joke. add some chocolate syrup if you like.

    Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2006 Feb;16(1):78-91.Links
    Chocolate milk as a post-exercise recovery aid.
    Karp JR, Johnston JD, Tecklenburg S, Mickleborough TD, Fly AD, Stager JM.

    Dept of Kinesiology and Applied Health Science, Human Performance Laboratory, Indiana University, Bloomington 47405, USA.

    Nine male, endurance-trained cyclists performed an interval workout followed by 4 h of recovery, and a subsequent endurance trial to exhaustion at 70% VO2max, on three separate days. Immediately following the first exercise bout and 2 h of recovery, subjects drank isovolumic amounts of chocolate milk, fluid replacement drink (FR), or carbohydrate replacement drink (CR), in a single-blind, randomized design. Carbohydrate content was equivalent for chocolate milk and CR. Time to exhaustion (TTE), average heart rate (HR), rating of perceived exertion (RPE), and total work (WT) for the endurance exercise were compared between trials. TTE and WT were significantly greater for chocolate milk and FR trials compared to CR trial. The results of this study suggest that chocolate milk is an effective recovery aid between two exhausting exercise bouts.

    Improved endurance capacity following chocolate milk consumption compared with 2 commercially available sport drinks.
    Thomas K, Morris P, Stevenson E.
    Appl Physiol Nutr Metab. 2009 Feb;34(1):78-82.
    PMID: 19234590

    This study examined the effects of 3 recovery drinks on endurance performance following glycogen-depleting exercise. Nine trained male cyclists performed 3 experimental trials, in a randomized counter-balanced order, consisting of a glycogen-depleting trial, a 4-h recovery period, and a cycle to exhaustion at 70% power at maximal oxygen uptake. At 0 and 2 h into the recovery period, participants consumed chocolate milk (CM), a carbohydrate replacement drink (CR), or a fluid replacement drink (FR). Participants cycled 51% and 43% longer after ingesting CM (32 +/- 11 min) than after ingesting CR (21 +/- 8 min) or FR (23 +/- 8 min). CM is an effective recovery aid after prolonged endurance exercise for subsequent exercise at low-moderate intensities.

    Appl Physiol Nutr Metab. 2009 Dec;34(6):1017-22.
    Acute effects of chocolate milk and a commercial recovery beverage on postexercise recovery indices and endurance cycling performance.

    Pritchett K, Bishop P, Pritchett R, Green M, Katica C.

    Department of Health, Human Performance, and Nutrition, Central Washington University, Ellensburg, WA 98926, USA.

    To maximize training quality, athletes have sought nutritional supplements that optimize recovery. This study compared chocolate milk (CHOC) with a carbohydrate replacement beverage (CRB) as a recovery aid after intense exercise, regarding performance and muscle damage markers in trained cyclists. Ten regional-level cyclists and triathletes (maximal oxygen uptake 55.2 +/- 7.2 mL.kg-1.min-1) completed a high-intensity intermittent exercise protocol, then 15-18 h later performed a performance trial at 85% of maximal oxygen uptake to exhaustion. Participants consumed 1.0 g carbohydrate.kg-1.h-1 of a randomly assigned isocaloric beverage (CHOC or CRB) after the first high-intensity intermittent exercise session. The same protocol was repeated 1 week later with the other beverage. A 1-way repeated measures analysis of variance revealed no significant difference (p = 0.91) between trials for time to exhaustion at 85% of maximal oxygen uptake (CHOC 13 +/- 10.2 min, CRB 13.5 +/- 8.9 min). The change in creatine kinase (CK) was significantly (p < 0.05) greater in the CRB trial than in the CHOC trial (increase CHOC 27.9 +/- 134.8 U.L-1, CRB 211.9 +/- 192.5 U.L-1), with differences not significant for CK levels before the second exercise session (CHOC 394.8 +/- 166.1 U.L-1, CRB 489.1 +/- 264.4 U.L-1) between the 2 trials. These findings indicate no difference between CHOC and this commercial beverage as potential recovery aids for cyclists between intense workouts.
  22. Jan 17, 2010 #21
    well, to clarify, i'm serious about milk as an exercise drink, even though i might present it in not so serious a way. would kill two birds with one stone for the poster, is all. ;)
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    None of that said anything about putting the milk in a saucer to lap up each time you do a push up. :wink: That's the part I took as a joke.

    Edit: You added your other post after I wrote this and before I hit send. :tongue:
  24. Jan 17, 2010 #23
    That's interesting that milk gave a better performance than dedicated sports drink.

    You still couldnt catch me drinking the stuff :yuck:
  25. Jan 18, 2010 #24
    I'm not looking for something very diety so to say. Like I'm not interested in losing wait (I'm far too skinny). My problem is a caffiene addiction. I drink alot of soda. MY friend recently suggested i could get diabetes from the amount I drink, and i'm kinda scared about that. ( i know this is different then my original post..) So is there a way to feed the addiction? Or should I not worry?
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    I am a cola addict and I am diabetic. I have weeded out the bad stuff (sugar, caffeine) but I still like my cola. So I buy diet caffeine-free cola.

    Yeah yeah, I'll beat y'all to the usual responses:
    - ew how can you drink diet? it has an awful aftertaste
    - ew cola is still bad for you even without sugar or caffeine
    - ew without the sugar or caffeine, you're just drinking brown water, why bother?
    Heard em all.

    BTW, there is less caffeine in a can of cola than in a cup of coffee or tea, so don't let anyone give you a hard time about "all the caffeine" in cola....
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