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Help me to build an E.M.P.

  1. Dec 16, 2005 #1
    I am hoping that you will help me to build an E.M.P.. Is there anyone that knows of plans or where to get plans for this device. thankyou
     
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  3. Dec 16, 2005 #2

    mezarashi

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    Isn't that illegal to begin with? You know the FCC clause below most of your household electrical devices that say something about: this device may not cause interference and must accept interference.
     
  4. Dec 16, 2005 #3

    berkeman

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    You need to better define what you want to build, and where you plan to test it. EMP can have several different meanings.
     
  5. Dec 16, 2005 #4

    Pengwuino

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    A device that can create an uncontrolled electromagnetic pulse is most likely very very illegal.
     
  6. Dec 16, 2005 #5

    Ouabache

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    Perhaps X3RO just wants to modulate a dirac function with a carrier frequency and see what it looks like on a scope.:rolleyes:
    (Or the OP has been watching too many MATRIX videos.)
     
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  7. Dec 16, 2005 #6

    Tide

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    Yes. You can get plans from Sandia National Lab -- but you'll need clearance and a demonstrated need to know. :)
     
  8. Dec 25, 2005 #7
    i saw something ton totse.com about an E.M.P. bomb not so long ago...
    I am posting this while the totse.com server is down so you will have to look thru it a bit later, i think its under bad ideas/ka-f***ing-boom.
     
  9. Dec 29, 2005 #8
    I'm thinkin a large coil, a BIG power source, and a axe should get you started.
     
  10. Dec 29, 2005 #9
    One fully charged high density Carbon Fiber Capacitor and a Cherry Bomb makes a good but illegal experimental source of EMP, Use the Cherry Bomb to blow up the charged Capacitor and voila, EMP!

    1 Farad Cap + Cherry Bomb = :surprised
     
  11. Dec 29, 2005 #10

    Pengwuino

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    No pun intended, but my intuition says that the pulse generated will be incredibly minimal.
     
  12. Dec 30, 2005 #11
    Minimal but it is testable.
     
  13. Dec 30, 2005 #12
    just a quick note to the original poster, as a DOD employee I feel the urge to tell you the area you are looking at raises big flags with the Mothership. EMP events and work in general is a very controlled study for good reason. This doesn't preclude working with EMP devices but in the present world environment, don't be surprised if you find yourself answer questions as to your intend. Successful test and evaluation of such devices requires specialized facilities, experience, etc. This is not intended to be heavy handed, just informative. It's always better to know what you are getting into. Research in this area is very interesting and has some facinating applications.
    ...now back to your regular program.
     
  14. Jan 2, 2006 #13
    The net is so flooded with spam about EMP it makes a person wonder what's right, what's wrong.. here ya go.

    Totse is funny, but somewhat accurate, but currently down. I believe their version is the nuclear version of the EMP. Not uranium or etc. just a nuclear chemical explosion. Being on TOTSE for some time, I wouldn't trust a single document on there. That means, don't build anything you see on TOTSE. You'll most likely kill yourself. There are some interesting things which are accurate, however they were never sorted from fiction to nonfiction. You won't know what's true or not.

    If you want more information on electrical magnetic pulse explosive I would go to...

    Roguesci.org
    However, don't talk to people since this has been discussed.
    If you talk about it, you'll most likely get banned quickly.
    Use the forum search feature.

    I would like you to know that this is one of those things where, if you don't know the basics of it, you probably can't do it.
    Just take your time because something like this will usually get you in trouble if done incorrectly. They're illegal either way, I think.

    Who cares? Ethics ethics blah blah. Just understand that when you build it, you'll most likely fry all circuitry around you. That means just about any appliance you have in your house, will pretty much get wasted and destroyed. If you mess up, you'll get (fried / blown up) also by electricity (for the non-nuclear version) or an explosion (for the nuclear one).

    Truly not the safest experiment however a good one if you've got some backwoods to screw around in. Also, getting plans isn't going to be easy at all. I would suggest you do hardcore study of electronics, physics, and chemistry before you even attempt tackling something like this. I've read things from EEs who have done EEing for about 15 years and didn't understand the EMP completely. It takes time.

    I also think you might want to look into H.E.R.F. technology.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herf
    http://www.freeinfosociety.com/science/herf.html
    http://www.ncc-cybersecurity.net/workingCopy BLUE/WCSU1.html

    I read that you can make a HERF weapon from a microwave, but I never uncovered the whole thing about that.
    http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2004/05/journal_homemad.html

    There's also an article in popular mechanics of Sept 2001 with some talk about EMPs. I checked it out on microfilm and there wasn't a lot to it, but still interesting.

    As a member of the DOD venue, I ask whytf people aren't using certain tech to kill IEDs that are killing many troops in Iraq. I suppose it's the geneva contract, which is total junk when it comes to troops who could have been saved by knocking out tons of electronics. Just another reason I chose not to join the military.
     
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  15. Jan 2, 2006 #14
    Bio... I would guess the question of directivity and shielding of our own weapons and support system comes into play here. I don't think we have a warm fuzzy feeling about our own systems survivability during an EMP event. An EMP burst is pretty indiscriminate. People hate spending what we do on defense, the additional cost to harden every battle field system, down to comms gear, would make them crap. And that is the only way to gain from using the technology militarily, if you still have capabilities after the fact.
     
  16. Jan 2, 2006 #15

    Pengwuino

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    I think one of the "modernization" factors to developed militaries such as the US is to acquire gear that withstands what they might encounter as it pertains to EMP's in the field if they ever do encounter it.
     
  17. Jan 3, 2006 #16
    Pengwuino - I would agree but it is not an easy task. There are cost issues, space and weight issues, etc. to hash out. What systems are mission critical and to whom? With the current budget getting tighter and tighter, cost savings are the driving factor in how much testing is done and how much work the contractor needs to do to comply. Putting additional funding into hardening against a weapon system that is not presently fielded by any military, such as an EMP system, is a hard sell. The military uses more and more commerical gear in their systems, which are not designed from the ground up as a military system. The costs to re-design to EMP standards would kill any cost benefits of using COTs to begin with.
    There is no good answer save spending more dollars we don't have...
     
  18. Jan 29, 2007 #17
    Ok, over a year ago but hey... ROTFLMAO...... Tears in my eyes over that one. Just a walk in the park son.

    thaelin
     
  19. Jan 29, 2007 #18

    berkeman

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    Whoops, thaelin. I'd normally offer my welcome to the PF to you, but that would put me on the NSA radar screen along with you. Not too bright a start, eh?
     
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