What is the solution for 27 mod 4 in this math problem?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a math problem involving the modulo operation and the use of vector notation. The solution involves calculating the remainder of 27 divided by 4 and 5, and understanding the notation for vectors in different sets. The conversation also provides a link to an explanation of modular arithmetic.
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Here's the work:
[2, 0, 3, 2]*[6, 4, 3, 3]=12+9+6=27
Since [3, 1, 1, 2]+[3, 3, 2, 1]=[6, 4, 3, 3].
But how do I figure out 27 mod 4?
 

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Here's the explanation of what modulo means:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_arithmetic

It's the remainder by a division with a certain number, here ##4## and ##5##. What you also used here, is that the modulo operation is a ring homomorphism, i.e. you don't have to bother whether you first apply the modulo operations and multiply in ##\mathbb{Z}_4## resp. ##\mathbb{Z}_5##, or first calculate in ##\mathbb{Z}## and apply the modulo operation on the result.
 
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So for the first part of the problem, it's 27 mod 4=3. Since the remainder of 27-4*6=3, right? But what about the second one? ZZ 4 and 5?
 
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If you can do it in ##\mathbb{Z}_4## what prevents you from doing the same with ##5##? The upper ##4## in the notation only means, that we have four dimensional vectors here.
 
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So 27 mod 5=2 since the remainder of 27-5*5=2, right? So what you're saying is to ignore the upper part since that's the number of dimensional vectors?
 
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Right. The notation means ##\mathbb{Z}_5^4 = \mathbb{Z}_5 \oplus \mathbb{Z}_5 \oplus \mathbb{Z}_5 \oplus \mathbb{Z}_5##. So the initial vectors, e.g. ##(2,0,3,2)## are meant to have their components, which are four of them, within ##\mathbb{Z}_5##, that is ##2 \in \mathbb{Z}_5\; , \;0 \in \mathbb{Z}_5\; , \; 3 \in \mathbb{Z}_5\; , \;2 \in \mathbb{Z}_5##. Together it is ##(2,0,3,2) \in \mathbb{Z}_5^4##. So the upper four is a count for the number of components, whereas the lower ##4## or ##5## in my example tells us where those components belong to. ##\mathbb{Z}_4 = \{0,1,2,3\}\; , \;\mathbb{Z}_5 = \{0,1,2,3,4\}## the possible remainders of a division by ##4##, resp. ##5##.
 
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Thank you so much for the help!
 

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