Solving an Elliptic PDE Using the Characteristic Equation: A Beginner's Guide

In summary: The first two are solutions in the real plane. The third is not, but is a surface in the complex plane.
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Hello

In our math course, we encountered the following elliptic PDE:

[tex]
y^{2}u_{xx} + u_{yy} = 0
[/tex]

In order to solve it, we converted it to the characteristic equation,

[tex]
y^{2}\left(\frac{dy}{dx}\right)^{2} + 1 = 0
[/tex]

Next, we wrote:

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{i}{y}[/tex]

My question is: the characteristic equation has no solution in [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex] but we went ahead and mechanically wrote the expression for [itex]dy/dx[/itex]. Does this mean that we should regard [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex] as complex variables? If so, how does one reconcile with the fact that some solution to the PDE as [itex]u(x,y) = c[/itex] is a surface in [itex](x,y,u)[/itex] space? Perhaps this is a trivial question, but I'm just starting to learn PDEs. Does this also mean that we should not ascribe a physical significance to x and y as coordinates in [itex]\mathbb{R}^2[/itex]?

Thanks.
 
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Yes, the fact that it is an elliptic equation tells you that the characteristic equation does not have real roots.
 
  • #3
Oops yes, of course...I didn't see that.

Also, in such a case, do y and x lose their "physical significance" of being real variables in real space?
 
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Mmm..no, it means that the characteristic curve itself doesn't lie in real space.
That's quite a different thing from saying that x and y cannot be regarded as real variables.
 
  • #5
arildno said:
Mmm..no, it means that the characteristic curve itself doesn't lie in real space.
That's quite a different thing from saying that x and y cannot be regarded as real variables.

Could you please elaborate? And where can I read more about such issues?
 
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Well, my memory on characteristics has gone hazy, so it would be helpful if you posted the precise procedure utilized in the particular example.

However, as a general trait, the method of characteristics is a trick whereby we get a family of curves along everyone of which the u-signal propagates in a simple manner (say, by being conserved).

If therefore that family of curves lie in the complex plane, it means that there aren't a set of real curves y(x) along which u propagates. For example, y cannot be solved entirely as a function of x when we constrict ourselves to the real plane.

Please post a few details about the specific procedure.
 
  • #7
Ok, so the elliptic equation is

[tex]au_{xx} + 2bu_{xy} + cu_{yy} = 0[/tex]

and its characteristic equation is

[tex]a\left(\frac{dy}{dx}\right)^{2} -2b\frac{dy}{dx} + c = 0[/tex]

Here, [itex]b^{2}-ac <0[/itex] so it has complex roots, and the characteristic curves are:

[tex]\zeta(x,y) = c_{1}[/tex]
[tex]\eta(x,y) = c_{2}[/tex]
 

1. What is an elliptic PDE?

An elliptic PDE (Partial Differential Equation) is a type of mathematical equation that involves multiple variables and their derivatives. It is characterized by having a second-order derivative term with no first-order derivative term. Examples of elliptic PDEs include the Laplace equation and the Poisson equation.

2. What types of problems can be solved using elliptic PDEs?

Elliptic PDEs are commonly used to model physical phenomena, such as heat transfer, fluid flow, and electromagnetics. They can also be used in finance and economics to model pricing and optimization problems.

3. How do you solve an elliptic PDE?

There are several methods for solving elliptic PDEs, including the finite difference method, finite element method, and spectral methods. These methods involve discretizing the PDE into a system of algebraic equations, which can then be solved numerically using computers.

4. What are the applications of solving elliptic PDEs?

Solving elliptic PDEs has a wide range of applications in various fields, such as engineering, physics, and finance. It can be used to predict the behavior of physical systems, optimize designs and processes, and make predictions in financial markets.

5. Are there any challenges in solving elliptic PDEs?

Yes, there are several challenges in solving elliptic PDEs. These include choosing an appropriate numerical method, ensuring accuracy and stability of the solution, and dealing with high-dimensional problems. Additionally, some PDEs may not have exact solutions, requiring the use of approximate methods.

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