How Do Block Diagram Simplifications Reflect Underlying Equations?

In summary, the conversation is discussing the simplification of two block diagrams and the understanding of the s/2s+1 block. The central loop must yield -2sC(s) and the factor 2(s+1)/s must be undone for this to occur. Additionally, there is no first pass of the loop as it is just a diagram representing equations.
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I am trying to understand the simplification between these two block diagrams

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The Attempt at a Solution


I understand the 2s+1/s has been moved past the summing junction, resulting in the 2s.
But I don't understand where the s/2s+1 block comes from
 

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Central loop (third line from top) has to yield ... - 2s C(s) so for that one the the factor 2(s+1)/s has to be 'undone'.

Check what arrives from C(s) over the third line from the top by the time it's back at the right via the second line from the top.
 
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BvU said:
Central loop (third line from top) has to yield ... - 2s C(s) so for that one the the factor 2(s+1)/s has to be 'undone'.

Check what arrives from C(s) over the third line from the top by the time it's back at the right via the second line from the top.

thanks. Also, for the first diagram,on the very first run of the loop, is the signal exiting the (2s+1)/s block the same after it passes through the summing junction?
 
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There is no first pass of the loop: it's just a diagram for the relationships.
A graphical rendering of a set of equations.
 

What is a block diagram?

A block diagram is a graphical representation of a system or process that shows the relationship between its components or stages. It is composed of blocks, which represent the different parts of the system, and lines or arrows that indicate how these blocks are connected.

Why do we use block diagrams?

Block diagrams are useful for simplifying complex systems and processes. They allow us to visualize the overall structure and connections within a system, making it easier to understand and analyze. They are also commonly used in engineering and scientific fields for design, troubleshooting, and communication purposes.

How do you simplify a block diagram?

To simplify a block diagram, you can start by identifying and grouping similar blocks together. Then, eliminate any unnecessary or redundant blocks and connections. You can also use techniques such as merging, splitting, and rearranging blocks to make the diagram more organized and easier to understand.

What are the benefits of simplifying a block diagram?

Simplifying a block diagram can make it easier to understand and analyze complex systems. It can also help identify potential issues or areas for improvement. Additionally, a simplified block diagram can be useful for communicating the essential components and connections of a system to others.

What are some common software tools for creating block diagrams?

There are various software tools available for creating block diagrams, such as Microsoft Visio, Lucidchart, SmartDraw, and Gliffy. These tools offer a user-friendly interface and a wide range of features to help you create and modify block diagrams efficiently. Some of them also come with pre-made templates and symbols specific to different industries or fields.

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