Where did I go wrong in proving the identity for div(F x G)?

In summary, the conversation is about attempting to prove the equation div(F x G) = G.(curlF) - F.curl(G) and getting stuck on the left hand side being equal to twice the right hand side. The person asks for help in understanding where they have gone wrong and another person points out a mistake in their expression for G.(curlF). The conversation then continues with the correct expression and the use of the product rule to expand and simplify the equation. The summary ends with the explanation
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I tried to prove

div(F x G) = G.(curlF) - F.curl(G)

and ended up getting the right hand side equaling twice the left hand side, with no idea where i'd gone wrong :(

can someone show me how to prove it correctly?

and, if you have time.. see if you can pick where i went wrong?

this is how I attempted to do it:

(I'm going to stop with the bolding for vectors because it's too annoying)

F x G = (f2g3 - f3g2)i + (f3g1 - f1g3)j + (f1g2 - f2g1)k

div(F x G) = d/dx(f2g3 - f3g2) + d/dy(f3g1 - f1g3) + d/dz(f1g2 - f2g1)

curlF = (df3/dy - df2/dz)i + (df1/dz - df3/dx)j + (df2/dx - df1/dy)k

G.(curlF) = d/dx(f2g3 - f3g2) + d/dy(f3g1 - g3f1) + d/dz(f1g2 - f2g1)

i can see I'm already in trouble here... this is the left hand side already...

then I used the same method for F.(curlG) which gets me the negative of G.(curlF) , so that when I take it from G.(curlF) I get twice the left hand side...

Any help will be greatly appreciated
 
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  • #2
Your expression for G.(curlF) is just wrong. Correct expression x derivative term is g3(df2/dx)-g2(df3/dx). When you work out the rest you will see the original formula is correct.
 
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...still stuck :(

I understand what you corrected me on, but once I've worked out G.(curlF) - F.(curlG) I can't see what you could do to it to make it the left hand side of the equation.

G.(curlF) - F.(curlG) = g1(df3/dy - df2/dz) + g2(df1/dz - df3/dx) + g3(df2/dx - df1/dy) - f1(dg3/dy - dg2/dz) - f2(dg1/dz - dg3/dx) - f3(dg2/dx - dg1/dy)

right?

then where do I go from there?
 
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Let's take the d/dx term. You have
-g2df3/dx+g3df2/dx+f2dg3/dx-f3dg2/dx, which is
d(f2g3)/dx-d(f3g2)dx, which is what you want.
 
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ah... thanks a bunch...

so..

g3df2/dx + f2dg3/dx = d(f2g3)dx

Is that just something I should've known? or are there some intermediate steps there?
 
  • #6
it's the product rule. traditionally learning that d(uv)/dx = vdu/dx+udv/dx comes well before you get onto div and curl.
 

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