Exactly at what point in time did Bush's axis of evil speech happen? I had thought it was post-9/11 but I'm not 100% sure. Someone I know claims had it not been for that speech 9/11 would not have happened, North Korea would not have developed a nuke and Iran would not be working so hard at whatever it is they are doing. This will only be settled in my own mind because no matter what ANYONE says, you will never change his mind. I've really given up on trying to correct people. In this particular case I'd rather watch him be wrong and laugh about it under my breath instead of trying to correct him. Of course, if I'm wrong, I'll just drop the whole thing.