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  1. Oct 10, 2010 #1

    MysticDude

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    Okay so this is mainly for the people in the United States but people everywhere can help too. Please sign this petition in order to help save the Internet.

    So a http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/coica [Broken] has been proposed that can actually block any site that is "dedicated to infringing activity" that the court or an Attorney General puts on a list(two different lists, one for the court rulings and the other for the Attorneys). Any domain name that is put on the court list is required by the ISPs to be blocked. So YouTube, which has loads of songs that are infringing copyright, can be blocked. ThePirateBay(you know what I'm talking about) will surely be blocked and you can't do anything about it.


    NOTE: THIS WAS QUICKLY TYPED SO SOME THINGS MIGHT BE INCORRECT.

    More about the Bill: http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/coica [Broken]
    The Bill itself: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-3804
    Petition:http://demandprogress.org/blacklist/?source=bb [Broken]

    Sorry if there is already another thread like this.
    This isn't a world affair, but since it involves the govt. I thought it would fit here.
     
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  3. Oct 10, 2010 #2
    Reading over the text of the bill, I'm not so sure that Youtube qualifies as an "infringing website:"

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-3804
     
  4. Oct 10, 2010 #3

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    Maybe YouTube was a bad example, but what about RapidShare, MegaUpload, and 4Shared. I've gotten my fair share of music from those sites. I've gotten some Android applications that I should have paid for from 4Shared, so those sites might as well be lost too. I don't want those sites to go. To some people they see this as a good thing, but the Internet is the only free place that I know.
     
  5. Oct 10, 2010 #4

    CRGreathouse

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    I think a person could have reason to worry that it would qualify under 2324a 2 A (i) as "enable or facilitate", even if they might not believe that it should.

    Also relevant is Australia's blacklist, which while much narower in ostensible focus was used for general censorship purposes beyond that allowed by statute, see e.g.:
    http://www.uberreview.com/2009/03/w...-internet-blacklist-says-about-censorship.htm
     
  6. Oct 10, 2010 #5
    I don't see file hosts as qualifying, either. But there are many, many forums and hosts that don't just offer file hosting; they encourage the sharing of cracked software and other pirated media.

    BTW, the library is almost a free place. I paid fifty cents for a card.

    It's an example from one of the links you posted.
     
  7. Oct 10, 2010 #6
    Once a site appears on the list, how long will it take owner to change its name and URL? It seems to me that this bill will do little more than perpetuate a game of cat and mouse.
     
  8. Oct 10, 2010 #7

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    The only thing is that, it's not blocking IPs, the bill is blocking domain names. And to answer your question with another question, how will that person tell his/her visitors about the new site? I understand what you are saying though, and considering that the blacklist is public, this will most likely be like Tom and Jerry, where Jerry is the domain and Tom is the court :D
     
  9. Oct 10, 2010 #8

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    I enjoy stealing stuff online as much as the next person, but I think I'll find a way to live without it
     
  10. Oct 10, 2010 #9

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    What if this gets out of hand the court starts to block sites that go against the US, or things that the US just doesn't want the public to know about? Then what?
     
  11. Oct 10, 2010 #10
    Didn't they already try that with the Afghan Diary?
     
  12. Oct 10, 2010 #11

    Evo

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    Violating copyrights, illegal downloads, offering cracked software is ILLEGAL and VIOLATES Physics Forums guidelines.

    From our guidelines

    DO NOT ask for or post links to sites offering these services.
     
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