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High IQ turns academics into atheists

  1. Jun 13, 2008 #1
    http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storycode=402381&c=2

    I know that correlation doesn't necessarily imply causation, but it would be interesting if further study was being done. Does anyone know of any additional research in this area?
     
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  3. Jun 13, 2008 #2
    U can start a poll here itself, i guess, to make a small study
     
  4. Jun 13, 2008 #3
    so atheism causes high IQ scores? ... cool. :biggrin: :tongue2:
     
  5. Jun 13, 2008 #4
    That's one possibility, that atheists tend to question more around them while theists tend to assume 'god did it' (note I said tend). Another possibility is that people who have higher IQ's tend to come to the conclusion that there is no god. Another possibility is that it is a statistical anomaly, or that the study was poorly conducted. Also it could be that people with higher IQ's tend towards environments which lead to atheism (so high IQ's could be an indirect cause).

    The causation could go either way, or there could be no causation, without further studies it's hard to say.
     
  6. Jun 13, 2008 #5
    The results of this study agree with the results I have been informally collecting all my life.
     
  7. Jun 13, 2008 #6
    I was trying to stay away from putting down creationists.
     
  8. Jun 13, 2008 #7
    well ill conform to that statistic... IQ=153... completely atheistic!
     
  9. Jun 13, 2008 #8
    I think Mensa did a study on it a while back. Something like 93% of the members of that National Academy of Sciences and 60% of AAAS are atheists.
     
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  10. Jun 13, 2008 #9
    lol I was just joking about atheism causing a higher IQ.

    Anyway, first of all, being religious doesn't necessarily entail being a creationist; though certainly not the majority, there are quite a few prominent scientists who are also religious (personally, I don't understand how they deal with what to me seems like a dichotomy, but clearly they manage just fine).

    Second of all... let's not get on our high horses here— being an atheist doesn't exclude one from being an idiot (I would argue that having a high IQ doesn't exclude one from being an idiot either).

    I would think that it's a combination of independent thinking and one's environment. Intelligent people in the western world tend to end up in places full of liberal circles and open discussions (universities)... but what about the many skilled engineers, biologists, doctors, etc. that come from islamic countries? — most of them are very religious.— if you're not exposed to such an environment, you're not as likely to consider atheism.
     
  11. Jun 13, 2008 #10

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    How many members are there in the National Academy of Sciences? Or was that supposed to be 93%?
     
  12. Jun 13, 2008 #11

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    I think the obvious conclusion here is that people with high IQs tend to be evil.
     
  13. Jun 13, 2008 #12
    :biggrin:

    Sorry, that was 93%
     
  14. Jun 13, 2008 #13
    I agree. Or is it that evil people are intrinsically more intelligent? :rofl:
     
  15. Jun 13, 2008 #14
    I know you were, but I just wanted to illustrate that it wasn't impossible.
     
  16. Jun 13, 2008 #15
    I think it is more impressive/insulting to claim that the causality is the other way around.
     
  17. Jun 13, 2008 #16
    My point was that, without further study, it's very difficult to draw any conclusions from this, other than that there is a correlation. I was hoping someone else knew of some additional research in the area.
     
  18. Jun 13, 2008 #17

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  19. Jun 13, 2008 #18
    One possible explanation, in favor of the theists, is that poor people have lower education, and education correlates positively with IQ, so poor people have lower IQ, and poor people are more likely to be religious, so there you go.
     
  20. Jun 13, 2008 #19
    But why are poor people more likely to be religious? Where does that correlation come from?
     
  21. Jun 13, 2008 #20

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    Maybe they need hope, and faith that things will get better. Just a guess.
     
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