Is Our Search for Extraterrestrial Life Pointless?

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In summary, an Oxford professor argues that if we find microbes on Mars, Europe, Titan or elsewhere, that would mean life can arise more easily in the universe, and hence the probability for intelligent life to arise somewhere in space goes up automatically. He argues that we have a Great Filter problem and that we are unlikely to find intelligent life because our technology would not be able to detect a signal.
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I got sucked into reading this wild essay by an Oxford professor regarding the significance of finding life in space whether primitive or intelligent.

If you get sucked in too, and read six pages, would you agree with his startling conclusion or remain skeptical.

Why I hope the search for extraterrestrial life finds nothing.
Here's the essay: http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/20569/page1/
 
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My take on this: it is just a discussion of the Drake Equation -
see Carl Sagan's discussion:


I do not buy the 'Great Filter' assumption - the idea that because we can't perceive any advanced technological intelligence near enough to make their presence known, there must be one step in the Drake Equation that has a failure rate approaching 1.0

During 0.1% of the time humans have existed (assuming the species is 100k years old)
we have been generating signals that somebody out there could see and recognize. This is about 100 years. So, 50 light years out, some civilization is enjoying the 'Beverly Hillbillies'

Plus, outside of some arbitrary radius, our current ability to perceive those alien signals drops to zero - pretend it is 2000 light years. Therefore, we could not "see" our own signals if we had another human outpost 2800 light years away. Rather, I think our Great Filter is the method we have for detecting intelligence - looking for radio signals - which is the problem, rather than life everywhere consistently finding an insurmountable barrier to survival. Not that there is any other available method...

Anyway, all of this is complete conjecture, with no supporting evidence, Roswell notwithstanding.
 
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It's good to see Carl Sagan on this issue.

The idea is if we find basic microbes on Mars, Europe, Titan or elsewhere, that would mean that life can arise much more easily in the universe, and hence the probability for intelligent life to arise somewhere in space goes up automatically. If that is so, and we haven't detected any signs of intelligent life, then the "great filter" has something in store for us. It's a sound idea, but it's founded on a premise that our technology would be able to detect a signal.

You are probably right, after 2000 lyr's, an RF signal would blend with the background thus rendering this hypothesis null.
 
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The idea is if we find basic microbes on Mars, Europe, Titan or elsewhere, that would mean that life can arise much more easily in the universe, and hence the probability for intelligent life to arise somewhere in space goes up automatically.
Does this mean we have doubts about finding intelligent life in Europe? :tongue2:
 
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Does this mean we have doubts about finding intelligent life in Europe? :tongue2:

:eek:

ahh, I forgot to add "Union."
 
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The universe might well extend infinitely far beyond the part that is observable by us, and it may contain infinitely many stars.
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What is SETI?

SETI stands for Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. It is a scientific research program that uses radio telescopes and other methods to search for signs of intelligent life beyond Earth.

Why would someone hope that SETI finds nothing?

Some people may hope that SETI finds nothing because they believe that the discovery of intelligent life beyond Earth could have negative consequences, such as an invasion or disruption of our way of life.

What would it mean if SETI finds nothing?

If SETI finds nothing, it would mean that there is currently no evidence of intelligent life beyond Earth. However, this does not necessarily mean that there is no other intelligent life in the universe, as the search is ongoing and there may be other methods of communication that we have not yet discovered.

What are the potential implications if SETI finds something?

If SETI were to find evidence of intelligent life beyond Earth, it could have significant implications for our understanding of the universe and our place in it. It could also lead to further research and potential communication with these extraterrestrial beings.

How does SETI search for extraterrestrial intelligence?

SETI uses a variety of methods to search for signs of intelligent life beyond Earth, including listening for radio signals, analyzing data from telescopes, and searching for unusual patterns in space. It also relies on the contributions of volunteers and citizen scientists to help analyze data and identify potential signals.

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