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Hostile non-smokers

  1. Sep 5, 2009 #1
    It never ceases to amaze me. Mention tobacco and all the anti-tobacco gurus line up to crucify you. Just ask about the history of tobacco, and boom, here come the preachers. The interesting thing is that actual smokers appear to be far less hostile. Never saw any smokers go off an a tirade if someone asked about quitting. It makes me wonder why pople get so hostile about decisions of people they do not even know. Don't you all think there are better ways and better causes to unleash all that energy?
     
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  3. Sep 5, 2009 #2

    lisab

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    It *stinks*.
     
  4. Sep 5, 2009 #3
    You live in California, right?
     
  5. Sep 5, 2009 #4

    Chi Meson

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    I found an example of a hostile attitude toward non-smokers. See above.
     
  6. Sep 5, 2009 #5
    lisab: a lot of things "stink". Do you have a drivers license? How sweet does exhaust gas smell?

    Equate: I do not live in California

    Chi Mason: No hostility intended... I personally do not care what people do in the privacy of their homes or cars if they do not break any laws or infringe on the rights of others.
     
  7. Sep 5, 2009 #6

    negitron

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    You have an extremely bizarre personal definition of hostile.
     
  8. Sep 5, 2009 #7

    Pengwuino

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    Of course. They just excuse themselves to have a smoke :biggrin: .
     
  9. Sep 5, 2009 #8
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    Nonsense.
     
  10. Sep 5, 2009 #9
    I do not live in California
     
  11. Sep 5, 2009 #10

    Chi Meson

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    Yes. I am unhinged.
     
  12. Sep 5, 2009 #11
    so sorry, currently short on monetary gifts
     
  13. Sep 5, 2009 #12

    lisab

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    Bratticus, if this is the hottest conflict in your life...you have a really, really easy life.
     
  14. Sep 5, 2009 #13

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    Really! This ranks right up there with whether the end of the toilet paper should hang over the roll, or behind it, nearer the wall.

    Our ferrets resolved that about 25 years ago. If the end was against the wall, they would reach up and treat the paper like a "treadmill" and strip it off the roll in no time, making a nice soft pile of paper that they could play in. They always looked guilty when caught in the act, but that wouldn't stop them from doing it again when you weren't watching.
     
  15. Sep 5, 2009 #14
    It is not a conflict, it is an observation. If you see a conflict in this, perhaps you need to redefine conflict.
     
  16. Sep 5, 2009 #15

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    You posed the situation as a conflict in which all non-smokers are meddling jerks who want to give you a hard time.

    This non-smoker spent many years playing blues in smoky bars, and at least I was well-paid for putting up with the smoke. It may come back to bite me eventually, but I never gave any smoker any crap for his or her habit.
     
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  17. Sep 5, 2009 #16
    I truly hope you don't live in El Paso, TX, because it really sucks down here... :wink:

    Anyway, I agree with your opinion in the OP.
     
  18. Sep 5, 2009 #17
    No I do not live in Texas either Equate.
     
  19. Sep 5, 2009 #18
    You must be from the blue planet... right?
     
  20. Sep 5, 2009 #19
    rootX, 3rd dirtball from the sun
     
  21. Sep 6, 2009 #20
    Second-hand smoke.
     
  22. Sep 6, 2009 #21

    Pythagorean

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    I like to give cartons of cigarettes to the children of non-smokers as christmas gifts. HO HO HO!
     
  23. Sep 6, 2009 #22
    I am a smoker who regularly tries to give it up and I don't like to be around other people when they smoke.I find that smoke from other cigarettes does stink.When I spark up I make sure I am outside and away from other people.
     
  24. Sep 6, 2009 #23

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    Yeah, and so do my farts. Luckily, people haven't told me to stop doing that too.

    I agree with and have made the same observations as Bratticus. I think what creates the most young anti-smoking "hostiles" though is the anti-smoking propaganda on our television networks. "HEY! Don't cha' know that's bad for you?"
     
  25. Sep 6, 2009 #24
    Lets see, smoking is prohibited in public buildings, at the workplace, stores, restaurants and bars. So basically, smokers are limited to their own residence, their car, and the great outdoors. Considering the amount of industrial polution in the air one breathes, why has no one raised a ruckus about that? If people are afraid of second hand smoke, simple solution... don't go to a smokers house, and don't ride in his/her car. That should elimit your exposure to second hand smoke.
     
  26. Sep 6, 2009 #25

    Ivan Seeking

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    Imo, the notion of using social pressure to help reduce smoking was adulterated to mean that it is acceptable to be rude and insulting. The internet probably helped to make things worse by making rudeness the new norm generally.

    I think a lot of the problem was that smokers were previously entitled to vicitimize everyone around them who didn't smoke, so when attitudes began to change, you suddenly found a lot of non-smokers who were downright hostile. It is also true that many former smokers become the biggest anti-smoking whiners because of the attitude change that they needed to quit. For example, many cessation programs that I've heard about essentially teach a person to be intolerant of anything tobacco. My sister was like this. She was a smoker for years and then quit. Suddenly she couldn't tolerate the smell of smoke.

    There is also a bit of a yuppy element to this as well. Some non-smokers clearly see themselves as being superior to smokers. This notion is reinforced with the mapping between smoking and poverty.
     
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