How can 'indestructible' tardigrades[water bears] be eaten?

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The discussion centers around the resilience of tardigrades (water bears) and the mechanisms by which they can be consumed by predators such as nematodes and amoebas. Participants explore the conditions under which tardigrades might be vulnerable, particularly questioning the role of their supposed indestructibility and the effectiveness of digestive enzymes from other organisms.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question how tardigrades can be eaten by other organisms despite their ability to withstand extreme conditions, suggesting that their resilience may only be active during suspended animation.
  • One participant challenges the assumption that digestive juices would have no effect on tardigrades, proposing that enzymes could potentially break down their defenses.
  • References to literature are mentioned, with one participant noting that a cited article is a review rather than original research, which may limit the reliability of its claims regarding the lifespan of tardigrades.
  • Concerns are raised about access to scientific articles, with frustrations expressed over subscription barriers preventing participants from reviewing relevant research.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of digestive enzymes against tardigrades and the conditions under which tardigrades may be vulnerable. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the mechanisms of predation or the validity of the claims made in the referenced literature.

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Limitations include the lack of access to original research articles, which may affect the depth of understanding regarding tardigrade biology and their interactions with predators. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the conditions that activate tardigrades' resilience.

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tardigrades[water bears] can resist pressures upto 6000 atm,can resist unbelievably high radiation levels,have even survived in space.how is it then,that it is eaten by nematodes,amoeba and other tardigrades?? to be precise,how can they be killed??-the digestive juices of other animals should have no effect on them,teeth,claws on any other physical weapon cannot harm them[an animal that can resist 6000 atm should be able to resist any physical damage].
are all these abilities activated only when tardigrades are in 'suspended animation'.if yes,why don't they go into suspended animation when they face a predator,or are in the predators body?
 
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ARAVIND113122 said:
tardigrades[water bears] can resist pressures upto 6000 atm,can resist unbelievably high radiation levels,have even survived in space.how is it then,that it is eaten by nematodes,amoeba and other tardigrades?? to be precise,how can they be killed??-the digestive juices of other animals should have no effect on them

Why? Enzymes can be wonderful little things. Do you have a reference for this?


I'd like to take a look at this article but unfortunately I don't have access. may be someone who does might comment.
http://journals.cambridge.org/actio...AB23E30BF8.journals?fromPage=online&aid=83425
 
The author says that shelf life might be closer to 10 yrs than 100 yrs. The article is a review, not original research. So if you can see its references, you might find original research there about decade-length lifetimes. A lot of them are Italian though:

Bertolani, R. (1982). Tardigradi (Tardigrada). Guide per il riconoscimento
delle specie animali delle acque interne italiane.
Quaderni CNR, Roma, AQ/1/168, 15.
 
Pythagorean said:
The author says that shelf life might be closer to 10 yrs than 100 yrs. The article is a review, not original research. So if you can see its references, you might find original research there about decade-length lifetimes. A lot of them are Italian though:

Bertolani, R. (1982). Tardigradi (Tardigrada). Guide per il riconoscimento
delle specie animali delle acque interne italiane.
Quaderni CNR, Roma, AQ/1/168, 15.

Unfortunately no. And I find this really annoying. Springer, elsevier, francis etc don't let me read an article without subscription. I'm fine with this, but they won't even let me see the references.
 
Elsevier (insert ranting and expletives on scientific publishing here).
 

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