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How can you Shield pacemaker like device so you can work with neodynymium magnets?

  1. Sep 19, 2010 #1
    Hi,
    I have a device in my chest that is similar in design to a pacemaker; except that I have a coil that goes from my chest to my brain. It is called a Vegas Nerve Stimulator. I want to work with grade N-52 magnets, but I am not even allowed to have a MRI because the magnetic energy would kill me. I am hoping that I can find some solution that will work. The one possible solution that I've come up with sounds highly uncomfortable, but here it is anyways. Making a special mu-metal brace for my neck and a special shirt that has mu-metal covering the box area. One problem I see with the shirt is that it couldn't be washed in a washing machine or dryer. I think the neck brace would work; although it will be harder to work with the magnets and I'll have a stiff neck.

    Any other ideas are welcome!!! I welcome ones that don't sound as uncomfortable as my original idea.
     
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  3. Sep 19, 2010 #2

    Drakkith

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    Re: how can you Shield pacemaker like device so you can work with neodynymium magnets

    Other than removing the device, shielding the whole thing and reinserting it into you, i dont see an option that isnt uncomfortable.
     
  4. Sep 19, 2010 #3

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    Re: how can you Shield pacemaker like device so you can work with neodynymium magnets

    Welcome to PF, friend.
    One of our policies here is that we do not give medical advice since none of us are qualified to do so. (There are a couple of doctors and nurses here, but they certainly won't try to make any sort of diagnosis without personal contact.)
    I'm pretty sure that the others will say the same thing that I'm going to. Have a good long sit-down with your doctor, and perhaps approach a biomedical engineer for advice. Do not, under any circumstances, mess about with any magnets until you have firm answers in hand. No matter how much you love your work, it isn't worth your life.
    I can't even begin to comment about the mu-metal idea, since I've never even heard of it until this thread.
     
  5. Sep 19, 2010 #4
    Re: how can you Shield pacemaker like device so you can work with neodynymium magnets

    Danger, you are right. My life is more important than what I love. I decided to scale back about three steps in my project and use some basic 50 gauss magnets and design a small working model of my invention. What I find funny is that the 50 gauss magnets were actually designed to turn my VNS in my chest on and off. Now that the device in my chest is permanently turned off I use the magnets for experiments.
     
  6. Sep 19, 2010 #5

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    Re: how can you Shield pacemaker like device so you can work with neodynymium magnets

    Okay... I didn't understand most of that, but I'm glad that you are taking a moderated approach to the situation.
    Even if this issue is now a "done deal" for you, please remain as a member of PF. Be it friendship, scientific knowledge, humour... you have something to contribute which will make the site even better. Besides, you're the closest thing to a real-life version of Tony Stark that I'm ever likely to encounter. That's gotta count for something. :biggrin:
     
  7. Sep 19, 2010 #6
    Re: how can you Shield pacemaker like device so you can work with neodynymium magnets

    Trust me, I'll be around. I never thought of Tony Stark and I at all alike, but the device he has in his chest and the one I have in my chest aren't that different. Mine can send electrical current to my brain when it is on.
     
  8. Sep 20, 2010 #7

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    Re: how can you Shield pacemaker like device so you can work with neodynymium magnets

    Whats the purpose of this device if i may ask?
     
  9. Sep 20, 2010 #8

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    Re: how can you Shield pacemaker like device so you can work with neodynymium magnets

    My body occasionally transmits an electrical (neuronal) signal to my brain, whereupon I post. Otherwise, I'm pretty dormant.
    By the bye, I do understand whatever level of pain you might feel at backing off from something that you want to do. The only time that I was ever happy in my entire life was when I was flying. Then, somewhere around 35 years ago, I came up diabetic. Apparently that is no longer an issue, but at that time someone with that condition was not allowed to possess a pilot's license. My life was essentially ruined, and I have to say that discovering PF and becoming friends with the more constant members has saved me. It's not quite a substitute for meaningless recreational sex, but it's better than nothing.
     
  10. Sep 20, 2010 #9
    Re: how can you Shield pacemaker like device so you can work with neodynymium magnets

    It is to stop Epileptic Seizures by sending electrical pulses to the vegas nerve in the brain every five minutes. The level of electricity sent to the vegas nerve via the coil that is connected into the Vegas nerve is set via a wand programmed to communicate with the device. Yes, I literally have a coil that you can see slightly bulging in my neck and a box in my chest. I don't mind it that much. It served its purpose. I can have the box removed, but not the coil because it is connected to my brain and if removed could result in death or severe brain injury.
     
  11. Sep 20, 2010 #10

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    Re: how can you Shield pacemaker like device so you can work with neodynymium magnets

    Ah i see.
     
  12. Sep 20, 2010 #11

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    Re: how can you Shield pacemaker like device so you can work with neodynymium magnets

    Holy sheepgarbage! You're the Terminal Man! Does Crichton know that you're running around loose?
     
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