How china censors the internet

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http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0603/explainer.china.internet/frameset.exclude.html [Broken]
This a slide show showing how china censors the internet.
 
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I wonder if that slideshow is censored.
 
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Another example of how corporation lacks of any kind of ethics, just like ibm helped hitler now google cisco and others helping the china goverment to censor the internet.

Western corporations provide much of the equipment and services for China's Internet system. Major players include Cisco Systems, Nortel Networks, Sun Microsystems, 3COM, Google, Yahoo!, Microsoft, IBM and others.

Yahoo! and Google agreed to rework their search engines to comply with China's filtering practices.

Cisco Systems has been integral to China's Internet development. Its router equipment, which reportedly provides no anonymity or encryption and was specifically designed for China, is in the core of the nation's surveillance of the Internet
 
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Guilt by association? Germany invaded Belgium, Iraq invaded Kuwait. Does that mean all governments lack any kind of ethics?
 
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By the way, I know this is a world affair, but since it's just information without any kind of position presented and no clear direction to the discussion, I moved it to GD.
 
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loseyourname said:
Guilt by association? Germany invaded Belgium, Iraq invaded Kuwait. Does that mean all governments lack any kind of ethics?
No, Just a very small group of very big corporations.

Keywords
Here's a short list of keywords that will trigger the filtering system and block access to content:
Revolution, Equality, Freedom, Justice, Taiwan, Tibet, Falun Gong, Dissident, Democracy, STD, Human rights
 
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I allways think those chinese buildings are of cool. There is a particular kind of "attitude".
 
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Burnsys said:
Another example of how corporation lacks of any kind of ethics, just like ibm helped hitler now google cisco and others helping the china goverment to censor the internet.
It's better then nothing. The people now have the internet where they normally would have nothing. It's also wrong to bring up ibm's association with hitler. The fallacy has been discussed before to a decent length as to why ibm can't be faulted for not having tme machines and knowing hitler would start a war years later.
 
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Pengwuino said:
It's better then nothing. The people now have the internet where they normally would have nothing.
Yes and now the chinese goverment can imprison those who type " Freedom" "Justice" and "Human Rights" in google! great!

Pengwuino said:
It's also wrong to bring up ibm's association with hitler. The fallacy has been discussed before to a decent length as to why ibm can't be faulted for not having tme machines and knowing hitler would start a war years later.
You should read IBM and the holocaust
http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

Only after Jews were identified -- a massive and complex task that Hitler wanted done immediately -- could they be targeted for efficient asset confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, enslaved labor, and, ultimately, annihilation. It was a cross-tabulation and organizational challenge so monumental, it called for a computer. Of course, in the 1930s no computer existed.

But IBM's Hollerith punch card technology did exist. Aided by the company's custom-designed and constantly updated Hollerith systems, Hitler was able to automate his persecution of the Jews. Historians have always been amazed at the speed and accuracy with which the Nazis were able to identify and locate European Jewry. Until now, the pieces of this puzzle have never been fully assembled. The fact is, IBM technology was used to organize nearly everything in Germany and then Nazi Europe, from the identification of the Jews in censuses, registrations, and ancestral tracing programs to the running of railroads and organizing of concentration camp slave labor.
 
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Burnsys said:
Yes and now the chinese goverment can imprison those who type " Freedom" "Justice" and "Human Rights" in google! great!
:rolleyes: Takes time, it's a lot better now than it used to be. The Chinese didn't know that Americans landed on the moon for a LONG time.
 
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This is terrible: Here's a short list of keywords that will trigger the filtering system and block access to content:

# Revolution
# Equality
# Freedom
# Justice
# Taiwan
# Tibet
# Falun Gong
# Dissident
# Democracy
# STD
# Human rights

and probably even this page now because it contains them. No wonder people from China are moving in even coming to my country. At least I can write whatever I want in google, wheter it is "Human rights", "physics+forums", "chuck norris facts" :biggrin: or "playboy video extreme torrent".
 
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chuck norris facts
That should get you life imprisonment in any country.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
That should get you life imprisonment in any country.

In just world it would get the death penalty.

*Chuck Norris, never sleeps, he waits*

If I hear one more chuck norris joke, someone will die.
 
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Burnsys said:
You should read IBM and the holocaust
http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/
And how is this different? This guy is making money from it as well... hypocracy?
 
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Burnsys said:
You should read IBM and the holocaust
http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/
Might want to find a more reputable site. Some of those links belong in locked S&D threads :rofl: :rofl:
 
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Pengwuino said:
Might want to find a more reputable site. Some of those links belong in locked S&D threads :rofl: :rofl:
It's not a site, it's a book. and i see you have no idea of it, and you have never read it.. i did. and beliveme, the book is based on the memos from IBM germany and The nazi party, on letters from ibm Germany to IBM New York ..etc. it's very well documented. So if you want to disput the validity of the book, it would be another big thread.

And it is a very reputable book as you can see here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0609607995/?tag=pfamazon01-20

And here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0609607995/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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physicsuser said:
And how is this different? This guy is making money from it as well... hypocracy?
No, this guy is not helping hitler to exterminate jews, he is just telling the story.

( More when his parents are Holocaust survivors)
 
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Chinese censhorshop of the internet had been going on for a while now, but recently, it has been getting a whole lot of attention since big companies (google, Microsoft, Yahoo, ...) are getting behind it.
I have been reading news stories for a few years about how China censors its internet searches, in particular, searches with those "key words" descibed in the slide show.

Last July, I went to China (Beijing, Xian, Shanghai), and a brought a laptop. Since we stayed in a nice hotel that catered to international (American and other countries) travelers, it had an ethernet connection in the room. Since I was feeling a bit daring, I decided I would test out their censorship system and posted a message on another forum and sent a few emails. I used key words like "democracy", "freedom", "protest".
As you can see, I am still alive and well, no Chinese storm troopers broke down my door and arrested me. All the while, right by the ethernet plug i nthe room, there was a sign which said something to the effect of, "Please respect the wishes of the People's Republic of Chine while browsing the internet", with a picture of Chairman Mao next to it.
Then again, you would expect that they wouldnt be leaning too hard on American tourists. On the other hand, I walked by an "internet cafe" in Xian, in a rather poor part of town. Looking into the dark room with computer screens in it, you just know that is where all the restrictions are.

I saw a news story more recently, back when google decided to join forces with China, in which this site,
http://www.baidu.com/index.html
was advertized as the chinese version of google (as opposed to http://www.google.cn/) [Broken]. If you search for common words like "cat" or "dog", everthing works fine, even if you search for their equivilents in chinese characters ("猫", "狗"). But when you search for "民主", you always get a "page cannot be displayed" error. Is it a coincidency that whenever I try to seach for "democracy" in chinese, it never works for me? I think not.
 
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