How does sin(65)/sin(37) become sin(65)/tan(37)?

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This discussion revolves around a 2D collision problem involving two pucks, where the original poster is attempting to solve for the final velocity of one puck using trigonometric relationships. The problem includes angles of deflection and requires understanding of trigonometric identities in the context of momentum conservation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to isolate the final velocity variable (Z) in their equation and questions how the term (sin65/tan37) is derived. Other participants engage by discussing the properties of tangent and its relationship to sine and cosine, while also exploring how to manipulate the equation to factor out Z.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of trigonometric identities and their application to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding factoring and the relationships between sine, cosine, and tangent, but explicit consensus on the method to isolate Z has not been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the manipulation of trigonometric identities and the specific steps needed to simplify the equation. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's struggle with the algebra involved in the problem.

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This is collision in 2D problem. I already did most of the work except I'm stuck on the trigonometry and algebra for solving for the final velocity of object a.

I will put the problem here just in case someone wants to show me a better way for getting to the answer.

Collision between two pucks. Puck "a" has mass = 0.025kg Velocity of "a" = +5.5m/s

along x-axis "a" makes collision with puck "b" which has mass = 0.050kg and "b" starts at rest. Collision is not head on. So, after collision puck "a" flies apart from "b" at angle 65° and puck "b" flies off at angle 37°


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I am trying to solve for Vfa;

Ma*Voa = Ma*Vfa(cos65) + [Ma*Vfa(sin65)/(sin37)](cos37)

Ma = X
Voa = Y
Vfa = Z

XY = XZ(cos65) + [ XZ(sin65)/(sin37)](cos37) solve for Z

Hopefully that's better.

The solutions in textbook managed to solve for Vfa or Z like this:

Z = Y/[cos65 + (sin65/tan37)]

My question how to get Z by itself and where did (sin65/tan37) come from?
 
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foreverlost said:
My question how to get Z by itself
Factor out the Z from the right hand side.
and where did (sin65/tan37) come from?
What does tanθ equal? 1/tanθ?
 
Doc Al said:
Factor out the Z from the right hand side.

Okay What confused me was that I didn't know how to get rid of Z from inside the parenthesis.

What does tanθ equal? 1/tanθ?

I'm not sure could I just plug in any number to θ and figure it out? I just get different numbers.
 
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Doc Al said:
Factor out the Z from the right hand side.

What does tanθ equal? 1/tanθ?


tanθ = sin/cos

1/tanθ = cotθ = -sinθ/cosθ
 
foreverlost said:
tanθ = sin/cos
Right.

So 1/tanθ = 1/(sin/cos) = cosθ/sinθ

1/tanθ = cotθ = [STRIKE]-sinθ/cosθ[/STRIKE]
 
Doc Al said:
Right.

So 1/tanθ = 1/(sin/cos) = cosθ/sinθ

Thanks Doc Al. I always did have trouble with trigonometric identities. Fortunately this exact problem was on the exam, and I practically remembered every step without much thought lol.
 

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