How long must the timetable allow for the whole train journey

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In summary, the question discusses using a v-t graph to determine the distance and time needed to travel from Aytown to City, as well as from Aytown to Beeburg and then to City. The first part calculates the total distance as 16000 meters and the remaining portion as 14000 meters, with a time allowance of 1080 seconds or 18 minutes. The second part calculates the distances from Aytown to Beeburg and from Beeburg to City as 9000 meters and 7000 meters, respectively, with a time allowance of 1260 seconds or 21 minutes. A correction is made to the time allowance in the second part, resulting in an allocated time of 21 minutes instead of the
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Homework Statement
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understanding of the ##v-t## graph
The question is below;
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My approach;
and kindly note that i am comfortable in using the si units. Here i used,
##60##km/hr = ##16.66666##m/s.

For part (a),

using the ##v-t## graph,
##→s_1##=(##\frac {1}{2}##×##180×16.666)##+(##\frac {1}{2}##×##60##×##16.666##)
##=1500+500=2000##m
Total distance from Aytown to City is ##9000+7000=16000##metres
Therefore the remainder portion is ##16000-2000=14000##m. The time taken to cover this ##14000## m is given by;
##t##=##\frac{14000}{16.6666}##= ##840## seconds.
The timetable therefore should give an allowance of ##t=180+60+840=1080## seconds = ##18##
minutes.

For part (b),
using the ##v-t## graph,
Total distance from Aytown to Beeburg is ##9000##metres
##→s_1##=(##\frac {1}{2}##×##180×16.666)##+(##\frac {1}{2}##×##60##×##16.666##)
##=1500+500=2000##m
Therefore the remainder portion is ##9000-2000=7000##m. The time taken to cover this ##7000## m is given by;
##t##=##\frac{7000}{16.6666}##= ##420## seconds.

Total distance from Beeburg to City is ##7000##metres
##→s_1##=(##\frac {1}{2}##×##180×16.666)##+(##\frac {1}{2}##×##60##×##16.666##)
##=1500+500=2000##m
Therefore the remainder portion is ##7000-2000=5000##m. The time taken to cover this ##5000## m is given by;
##t##=##\frac{5000}{16.6666}##= ##300## seconds.
The timetable therefore should give an allowance of ##t=180+60+420+1+180+300+60=1201## seconds = ##20.016666##
minutes.
The time allocated should be ##21## minutes...bingo:cool:

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Hi @chwala ,

What is $$
s_1=(12×180×16.666)+(12×60×16.666)
$$in symbols ? And in words ?

[edit] check your units on$$
t=180+60+420+1+180+300+60=1201$$##\ ##
 
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BvU said:
Hi @chwala ,

What is $$
s_1=(12×180×16.666)+(12×60×16.666)
$$in symbols ? And in words ?

[edit] check your units on$$
t=180+60+420+1+180+300+60=1201$$##\ ##
The units are just fine ...##1201## seconds, ##s_1## was the first portion of the ##v-t## graph...
 
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##s_1## is something else !

What is the 1 second for ?

##\ ##
 
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I hope this is clear for part (a)...
 
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BvU said:
##s_1## is something else !

What is the 1 second for ?

##\ ##
This is for part (b) of the question, i guess i need to change the font color to distinguish between the two parts. Consider the original question they had indicated, ...at an intermediate station ##1## minute is allowed...
 
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So ##s_1## is the distance needed to come up to speed and to decelerate to a stop. And to calculate it you use your favourite ##s = \frac 1 2 (v_{\rm start} + v_{\rm end})\,t\ ## which is fine.

1 second is not the same as one minute ! You want to add 60, not 1 for the stop.

Other than that, just fine. Bravo!

##\ ##
 
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BvU said:
So ##s_1## is the distance needed to come up to speed and to decelerate to a stop. And to calculate it you use your favourite ##s = \frac 1 2 (v_{\rm start} + v_{\rm end})\,t\ ## which is fine.

1 second is not the same as one minute ! You want to add 60, not 1 for the stop.

Other than that, just fine. Bravo!

##\ ##
That's right...yeah i should have converted the ##1## minute into seconds...let me post the correct solution after this post.
 
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...for part (b)...

The timetable therefore should give an allowance of ##t=180+60+420+60+180+300+60=1260## seconds = ##21## minutes.
The time allocated should be ##21## minutes...bingo:cool:
 
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1. How is the total travel time for a train journey calculated?

The total travel time for a train journey is calculated by adding up the time spent at each stop, including any scheduled layovers or transfers, and the time spent traveling between stops at the train's average speed.

2. What factors can affect the total travel time for a train journey?

Factors that can affect the total travel time for a train journey include the distance between stops, the number of stops, the train's speed, any delays or disruptions during the journey, and the scheduled layover or transfer times.

3. How long should the timetable allow for a train journey?

The timetable should allow for the total travel time of the train journey, including any scheduled layovers or transfers, plus a buffer for potential delays or disruptions.

4. Can the timetable be adjusted to reduce the total travel time for a train journey?

Yes, the timetable can be adjusted to reduce the total travel time for a train journey. This can be done by increasing the train's speed, reducing the number of stops, or minimizing the scheduled layover or transfer times.

5. Why is it important to accurately calculate the total travel time for a train journey?

Accurately calculating the total travel time for a train journey allows for efficient scheduling and planning, ensuring that passengers arrive at their destinations on time. It also helps to identify any potential issues or delays in the journey, allowing for better management and communication with passengers.

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